Config - Anyone have a set up for rangers to be strictly bow damage instead of melee??

[Fennil]

just lookin for a ranger set up for being only bow dmg instead of melee or way that i can make one of existing ini's be only range

 

[BrianGragg]

just lookin for a ranger set up for being only bow dmg instead of melee or way that i can make one of existing ini's be only range

Take the posted kiss ranger ini. Make sure use range setting is on. Long as you are at a somewhat distance from the mob he will auto bow instead of melee. Range isn't very large, I believe it's what ever min bow range is but I could be wrong.


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[Zeeeeeee]

IMO dont use kiss to shot with ranger, set it to 0 also melee or it will hug the mob...the reason is, kiss dont use autofire of the ingame feature, it press the ranged attack every time he thinks its ok, and that sux a lot...dps will be shit without autofire...i already asked maskoi to change that but seems ranger isnt a popular class in redguides i dont think he will change that...

or u could use the ranged attack of macroquest, its not autofire either(cause it turns autofire off if u turn it on manually) but its way better than kiss...for that u will need some holies to check distance and tell him to melee or range..and sometimes kiss forces him to melee even if it has space for ranged attacks...

 

[BrianGragg]

Was not aware of that thx.


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[Warl0ck45]

MQ2Melee's range function is borked.

Though I imagine with some thought you can come up with a holyshit to turn it on. There is a TLO for it Me.AutoFire

Entirely depends on what macro you are using and how you acquire targets, but off the top of my head you can start with

holyshit10=/if (!${Me.AutoFire} && ${Me.GroupAssistTarget.ID}==${Target.ID} && ${Target.Distance}>30 && !${Me.Invis} && ${Target.PctHPs}<98) /autofire

and modify it to fit your playstyle/needs/macro. This is assuming your ranger is not the group's main assist, and you have some macro set up to acquire targets. For instance, at a guess, it ought to work with KA provided you turn melee off and KA's range attack off. Bear in mind though... this is just pulled out of my ass, I haven't tested this =P

I am sure others can add to it or suggest changes, if you have questions =)

 

[Maskoi]

[General]
KissAssistVer=9.1.3
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=10
MedCombat=1
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=2
CastingInterruptOn=1
EQBCOn=1
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
[Buffs]S
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=Shout of the Copsestalker|DualMA|Cloak of Nettlespears
Buffs2=Copsestalker's Unity|Dual|Energized By The Hunt
Buffs3=Shimmering Veil|Me
Buffs4=Roaring Weapons|Me
Buffs5=Copsestalker's Enrichment 
Buffs6=Flaming Arrows
Buffs7=Copsestalker's Vigor|Melee
Buffs8=Roaring Weapons
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
[Melee]
AssistAt=98
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=loose
AutoFireOn=1
UseMQ2Melee=1
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell1=NULL
GoMSpell2=NULL
GoMSpell3=NULL
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup
GMailOn=0
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=2
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Anticipated Shots|98
DPS2=Dichotomic Fusillade|96
DPS3=Focused Arrowrain|94
DPS4=Summer's Cyclone|92
DPS5=Swarm of Glistenwings|98|Once
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
DPS16=NULL
DPS17=NULL
DPS18=NULL
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL
DebuffAllOn=0
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
Heals1=Cloudfont|55
Heals2=Desperate Dousing|20
Heals3=Convergence of Spirits|15|MA
Heals4=Protection of the Spirit Wolf|25|Me
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHeal2=0
HealGroupPetsOn=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=1
Cures1=Kromtus Balm
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
UseTribute=0
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=5
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

 

[Sum1]

In almost every instance, the dps output from meleeing will beat using a bow (that's even using the /autofire command and not KISS). The only time where that might not be the case is when you burn your bow disc. I recently sold a Skybarrage for this very reason... the times where I'd use the bow are so few and far between that it's not even worth having and I'd rather have the 25 or so kronos I got for it.

 

[BrianGragg]

In almost every instance, the dps output from meleeing will beat using a bow (that's even using the /autofire command and not KISS). The only time where that might not be the case is when you burn your bow disc. I recently sold a Skybarrage for this very reason... the times where I'd use the bow are so few and far between that it's not even worth having and I'd rather have the 25 or so kronos I got for it.

Does the bow not affect the physical spells they cast? Focused arrow(?) line of spells.


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[nyghteyes]

Hey Maskoi, will the dps routine recognize Ranged? No way for me to test it atm.

Set Mq2melee stick range really close so they don't stick but then;

Dps1=Ranged|99|Mash

Autofire will not maximize DPS for a bow they way the hardcore parsers tell it.

 

[Sum1]

Does the bow not affect the physical spells they cast? Focused arrow(?) line of spells.

It shouldn't have an impact. One way to test it is to unequip your arrow and your bow and then use the spells. I bet the damage output stays the same under those conditions. Obviously, crits and headshot/final blow type effects will spike your damage, but your bow/arrow selection should not.

 

[BrianGragg]

Ok. I just always assumed it had an affect and tried to keep my ranger in the best bow I could get. Guess I can not worry about it as much.


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[dannuic]

If you look at the description of the physical line of spells on Lucy, it sets the damage amount (and the hit %). So the bow/arrow shouldn't matter.

 

[BrianGragg]

IMO dont use kiss to shot with ranger, set it to 0 also melee or it will hug the mob...the reason is, kiss dont use autofire of the ingame feature, it press the ranged attack every time he thinks its ok, and that sux a lot...dps will be shit without autofire...

Autofire will not maximize DPS for a bow they way the hardcore parsers tell it.

So which is it?

 

[Zeeeeeee]

I guess he is saying a human pressing ranged attack x autofire, not the pressing by kiss or mq2

 

[BrianGragg]

I guess he is saying a human pressing ranged attack x autofire, not the pressing by kiss or mq2

I would think a macro pushing the button would in theory be faster?


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[Zeeeeeee]

I would think a macro pushing the button would in theory be faster?


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A super fast macro would be faster yes but the dps would be like +0,1% in dif?? Also, he said hardcore parses, like ppl who freaks out and uses to get all dps u can from ur toon

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Hey Maskoi, will the dps routine recognize Ranged? No way for me to test it atm.

Set Mq2melee stick range really close so they don't stick but then;

Dps1=Ranged|99|Mash

Autofire will not maximize DPS for a bow they way the hardcore parsers tell it.

It doesnt work that way

 

[Maskoi]

Hey Maskoi, will the dps routine recognize Ranged? No way for me to test it atm.

Set Mq2melee stick range really close so they don't stick but then;

Dps1=Ranged|99|Mash

Autofire will not maximize DPS for a bow they way the hardcore parsers tell it.

This is interesting. I may play with this on the weekend.

 

[nyghteyes]

This is interesting. I may play with this on the weekend.

I had a chance to screw with that last night. As Zeeeeee said it doesn't work like that, but it also doesn't spam me with any messages.

Currently just Turning Melee off and using 2 multiline hotkeys to turn AF / Assist on and off pending each battle.

 

[Zeeeeeee]

I had a chance to screw with that last night. As Zeeeeee said it doesn't work like that, but it also doesn't spam me with any messages.

Currently just Turning Melee off and using 2 multiline hotkeys to turn AF / Assist on and off pending each battle.

What u using to turn /attack on?? i just need that i have others that i got in the forum for distance checks, i tried to make my own and didnt work : holyshit4=/if (${Me.Combat} && ${Target.Type.Equal[npc]} && ${Target.PctHPs}<99) /attack

and i know nothing about programing lol trying to figured it out and seeing the erros in game

 

[Sum1]

What u using to turn /attack on?? i just need that i have others that i got in the forum for distance checks, i tried to make my own and didnt work : holyshit4=/if (${Me.Combat} && ${Target.Type.Equal[npc]} && ${Target.PctHPs}<99) /attack

and i know nothing about programing lol trying to figured it out and seeing the erros in game

holyshit4=/if (XXX && ${Target.Type.Equal[npc]} && ${Target.PctHPs}<99) /autofire on

I'm kinda busy at work and don't have the syntax off the top of my head, but I'd replace the "XXX" above with the check to make sure you're running kissassist (or whatever macro you use). Also, change "/attack" to "/autofire on". Additionally, unless you plan on using spells to get in combat, the ${Me.Combat} check would be less than useful because without spells or something else cast on the mob you'll never actually get in combat.

 

[nyghteyes]

I hit mine manually because a holy flag needs to be in combat to activate. And if combat activates Kiss will not let the AF stay on as it wants to melee, not everytime but cant find a rhyme or reason to it deciding what one it wants.

The hotkeys have duplicates line for each Toon

First 2 hotkeys are to turn assist on and off so KA doesnt try to melee if I'm going to bow.

3rd hotkey is just a /moveto loc to be able to place them away from the group in tighter quarters

The AF is very basic but gets the job done as I am not AFK so hitting 1 key to bow all of them works fine.

 /bct TOONNAME //multiline ; /assist ${Me.Name} ; /delay 5 ; /autofire on

 

[Skyjet2000]

With Kiss running, I get the "Auto Fire On" Message just like I would if i typed it myself.

DPS seems to be normal. I am not noticing any drop in DPS using Kiss for my ranger.

 

[Zeeeeeee]

holyshit4=/if (XXX && ${Target.Type.Equal[npc]} && ${Target.PctHPs}<99) /autofire on

I'm kinda busy at work and don't have the syntax off the top of my head, but I'd replace the "XXX" above with the check to make sure you're running kissassist (or whatever macro you use). Also, change "/attack" to "/autofire on". Additionally, unless you plan on using spells to get in combat, the ${Me.Combat} check would be less than useful because without spells or something else cast on the mob you'll never actually get in combat.

tried that didnt work, autoattack or autofire wont start...tried with both: /if (${Macro.Name.Equal[kissassist.mac]} && ${Target.Type.Equal[npc]} && ${Target.PctHPs}<99) /attack on