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Guide - AddClicky Information (1 Viewer)

Here is some basic information on the addclickies:

We have a semi-major overhaul in the planning stages, which should add additional functionality, customization, and usability, but we don't have a timeline for that at this moment.

Downtime - when we're downtime (not fighting, not invis), and we are missing the buff from the item.
Defensive - when you are the target of the target you are fighting, and we are missing the buff from the item.
Offensive - when you are fighting, and we are missing the buff from the item.
Burn - when you are burning (burnallnamed and target is named, burn always, or xtargets is more or equal to burncount), and we are missing the buff from the item.
Summon - item that summons items, when we have less than our summoncount for that summon item (done during downtime)
ShrinkGroup - shrinks group members
PullItem - uses this clicky to pull with.
ManaGroup - Used when a group member is below 60 mana (currently not adjustable, part of future updates)
ManaSelf - Used when you are below 60 mana (currently not adjustable, part of future updates)
HealthGroup - Used when a group member is below 60 health (currently not adjustable, part of future updates)
HealthSelf - Used when you are below 60 health (currently not adjustable, part of future updates)
Cure - Used when you have a detrimental that matches your cure clicky type - take care, this will nom nom nom clicky cure potions

Q. How do I get my group to stagger clickies?
A. This isn't an easy one to answer. The CWTN plugins don't track or wait for other toons to do anything. They say "Am i supposed to do my thing now, is my item ready, am I missing whatever buff it gives?" if those are true, it does it. so it is possible multiple characters start casting their abilities at the same time. For the next update (3/25/2021ish) we have some additional logic to try and help stagger items that give a group buff or drop an aura buff on the ground - things like the Unity Feather or the Rage of Rolfron for CopIV. This won't be perfect, but it adds extra "smarts" to try and help stagger those group buff items specifically.
Hey so oddball question is there a way to get the CWTN plugins to use something like Mysterious Belt of Daggers to pew pew range items from a distance? I've got that going on caster bots and it's super slick with kissassist...it'd be cool if the plugins can do it too with like cleric or enchanter if they're not meleeing
 
Hey so oddball question is there a way to get the CWTN plugins to use something like Mysterious Belt of Daggers to pew pew range items from a distance? I've got that going on caster bots and it's super slick with kissassist...it'd be cool if the plugins can do it too with like cleric or enchanter if they're not meleeing
no, not at this time.
 
I may have missed the question, or it may be a part of your revamp coming up... Forgive me if either.

Is there a way to check what clickies we have added so far?
 
I may have missed the question, or it may be a part of your revamp coming up... Forgive me if either.

Is there a way to check what clickies we have added so far?
yup.

in all off the commands tab of each resource

/clr ShowClickies - will spit out current added/usable clickies.
 
yup.

in all off the commands tab of each resource

/clr ShowClickies - will spit out current added/usable clickies.
Blah I feel so dumb, i went line by line looking. I particularly paid attention on the clicky section... You must think we are all idiots! lol
 
Blah I feel so dumb, i went line by line looking. I particularly paid attention on the clicky section... You must think we are all idiots! lol
should definitely be under the "Clicky section" i'll adjust that, thanks Rusang
 
Ignore found in the ini.


What is this error? Also what best way to add illusion mine isn't working.

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What is this error? Also what best way to add illusion mine isn't working.

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did you look at the overview page? it explains all the addclicky types on there. it looks like you did since you have a bunch of clickies added...

so an illusion would go during downtime. you will also want to ensure you don't have on "auto remove illusion" otherwise, you guessed it. you're going to remove it and re-cast it.

some illusions report they don't stack with other stuff - and i bet that your visage of farfathom is one of them - probably not stacking with your mount, familiar, or jann veil etc

Downtime - when we're downtime (not fighting, not invis), and we are missing the buff from the item.
Defensive - when you are the target of the target you are fighting, and we are missing the buff from the item.
Offensive - when you are fighting, and we are missing the buff from the item.
Burn - when you are burning (burnallnamed and target is named, burn always, or xtargets is more or equal to burncount), and we are missing the buff from the item.
Summon - item that summons items, when we have less than our summoncount for that summon item (done during downtime)
ShrinkGroup - shrinks group members (you can add a pet shink in here now and it will use it to shrink your pet, if you have one).
PullItem - uses this clicky to pull with.
ManaGroup - Used when a group member is below 60 mana (currently not adjustable, part of future updates)
ManaSelf - Used when you are below 60 mana (currently not adjustable, part of future updates)
HealthGroup - Used when a group member is below 60 health (currently not adjustable, part of future updates)
HealthSelf - Used when you are below 60 health (currently not adjustable, part of future updates)
Cure - Used when you have a detrimental that matches your cure clicky type - take care, this will nom nom nom clicky cure potions

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this means exactly what it says - that the entry in your mq2eskay_dudebro.ini under
[Clickies]
Clicky8=blah
does not have an entry
which means you went and manually edited the file and didn't give it a parameter of when to use it
it should be
Clicky8=blah|downtime
or whenever you want to use it.

this is what my clickies look like
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yeah your visage of farfathom gives you an Illusion Benefit Paza buff.
so it is probably not going to try and cast while you have a mount buff etc or another "benefit ABCD"

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I can cause the same with Visage of the Frozen Goblin, which also gives paza

if you want just the illusion from the item, you'll either need to manually cast it, or set up a react or similar, as the plugin is going to check for stacking on the buffs it provides and since its reporting, something isn't going to stack, it won't cast it.
 
Here is some basic information on the addclickies:
Downtime - when we're downtime (not fighting, not invis), and we are missing the buff from the item.
ShrinkGroup - shrinks group members (you can add a pet shink in here now and it will use it to shrink your pet, if you have one).

Is there a way to shrink self only? I like to keep my tank full size but shrink everyone else. For that reason I obviously do not want to shrink group. Pretty much all my group has the shrink ring from the any. event (Ring of the Ancients) that I can use to shrink myself. I tried to addclicky downtime but they only spam themself over and over and over with the ring because it does not give a buff for the program to see (I am guessing). If we could do a shrink self, I would just set each toon to downtime shrink themselves individually.

*edited to add - you need to have the ability to click it twice to get the max shrink for the ring so it would have to shrink 2x

Thank you.
 
Is there a way to shrink self only? I like to keep my tank full size but shrink everyone else. For that reason I obviously do not want to shrink group. Pretty much all my group has the shrink ring from the any. event (Ring of the Ancients) that I can use to shrink myself. I tried to addclicky downtime but they only spam themself over and over and over with the ring because it does not give a buff for the program to see (I am guessing). If we could do a shrink self, I would just set each toon to downtime shrink themselves individually.

*edited to add - you need to have the ability to click it twice to get the max shrink for the ring so it would have to shrink 2x

Thank you.
no, if you had a shrink item that does more than just yourself, it is going to try and shrink your everyone it can.

downtime is not correct as you pointed out.

shrink items are clicked as many times as needed to get the recipient to below 2.04 height - there is nothing available that returns maximum double shrunk height based on race/illusion/etc, so we just use the pretty standard 2.04 height. You can't use 1.88, as some things don't go that small. etc

If you're purely trying to shrink for visual purposes you can consider using mq2autosize and then you can change the local visibility of characters to fit what you want ( you can't specify tank to be big and rest small - but its an option).

since you're trying to do something specific - it might be worth using mq2react so you can use specify that you want your item used only on yourself
 
Are there any clickies that have known issues when used... am asking as have spamming happening with several of mine when setting to downtime, they only need to be done at start as it permanent effect and right now they just spam continuously. Wanting to set this due to my absent mindedness and I will forget to click them. :shrug: . I'll update this if I find one that does works for the below... Abstruse Ironhand Breastplate does work like should.

Items so far with spamming issues followed by the actual cast spell
Whitepaw's Faceplate of Realized Nightmares - Shadow of Endurance
Leaf of Autumn, Ring of the Fearborn - Shadow of Might
Stonewall Pauldrons, Golden Band of the Traveller - Shadow of Defense
 
Are there any clickies that have known issues when used... am asking as have spamming happening with several of mine when setting to downtime, they only need to be done at start as it permanent effect and right now they just spam continuously. Wanting to set this due to my absent mindedness and I will forget to click them. :shrug: . I'll update this if I find one that does works for the below... Abstruse Ironhand Breastplate does work like should.

Items so far with spamming issues followed by the actual cast spell
Whitepaw's Faceplate of Realized Nightmares - Shadow of Endurance
Leaf of Autumn, Ring of the Fearborn - Shadow of Might
Stonewall Pauldrons, Golden Band of the Traveller - Shadow of Defense
you probably shouldn't add any of the shadow items to clicky buffs. they don't give you the buff they say they give - they unlock aa ranks in your Special AA tab.

so it is going to keep trying to cast the item because you don't have the buff it says you get, and since the actual buff doesn't give you anything, there's no real point in adding them to addclickies.
 
you probably shouldn't add any of the shadow items to clicky buffs. they don't give you the buff they say they give - they unlock aa ranks.

so its going to keep trying to cast the item because you don't have the buff it says you get


:cry: Well is there away that I have over looked to add at startup / login then using CWTNs since they only need cast the one time, I know i can set a hotkey but i will forget until i die and even then possibly still forget. KA i can add to the ini file
 
:cry: Well is there away that I have over looked to add at startup / login then using CWTNs since they only need cast the one time, I know i can set a hotkey but i will forget until i die and even then possibly still forget. KA i can add to the ini file
no - again you don't get anything from having the buff icon on you other than having the buff icon on you.

- clicking the item unlocks a special tab AA - the "shadow of coolness" doesn't give you ANYTHING

a cwtn downtime clicky is "if i don't have the buff from the clicky on this item click this item"

so putting in an item that doesn't give a buff from the clicky as describe is going to result in this.

same as if you put a shrink item as downtime - you don't get "shrink" buff from it - so it would keep trying to click the item etc.
 
So using...

Buffs3=Ring of Restless Sleep|Dual|Shadow of Defense

Does work in the INI files... is there no way to set this in a CWTN?
 
So using...

Buffs3=Ring of Restless Sleep|Dual|Shadow of Defense

Does work in the INI files... is there no way to set this in a CWTN?
Drak,

I'm not sure where the disconnect is.

No there is not.

The item does not give you the buff that the item says it does because it it actually a special AA unlocker.

The buff that it does gives you *does not actually do anything* as i've said a couple of times. Shadow of coolness gives you nothing, you get nothing from it. once you have clicked the item and given the special AA ability in your AA window, there is zero need to have the shadow of coolness buff. because the "shadow of coolness" buff doesn't give you any stats, any benefit, no health, ac, no stamina, no dex, no mana, no regen, no endurance, no luck, nothing

those items gives you these AAs. the literal buff they cast on you "shadow of xyz" does nothing. There are no stats from the "shadow of xyz" buff.

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Since the clicky doesn't say "hey i cast shadow of coolness", a cwtn addclicky downtime would not be appropriate for that item - because, as i've mentioned a few times now, it doesn't give the buff that it says it gives you.

I'm still not understanding why you want "shadow of xyz" buff on you - as it doesn't give you anything.'

> Here < is "shadow of defense"
it literally doesn't give you anything. nada
Normally you would have something in the attribs to say what SPA you're getting, and then something in the bases to say how much of that spac you're getting.
these literally give you a buff icon that does nothing.
They are the buff equivalent of an invisible star sticker - not a gold star, or a silver star, or a cool rainbow star, but an invisible star
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but to re-answer your question again. No. There is no way to add them to downtime clicky that will result in casting a spell that the item doesn't say it gives you.
 
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@Sic Your correct I was missing your point... I was wanting the clicky to do as it read... it's supposed to be Form of Defense V, but as your stating its giving Shadow of Defense which is just taking up a buff slot with no benies... so looking back over the item this clicky isn't required to get the benifits of Form of Defense as it actives soon as its donned, and here i thought I had new clickies i had overlooked :bang: :bang: :bang:
 
if, after the explanations, you still, for some reason, want "shadow of coolguy" buff you would best be suited looking at mq2react

YAML:
ShadowRingItem:
    action: /useitem Ring of Restless Sleep 
    condition: >-
      ${Me.ItemReady[Ring of Restless Sleep]} && !${Me.Buff[Shadow of Defense]}
 
@Sic Your correct I was missing your point... I was wanting the clicky to do as it read... it's supposed to be Form of Defense V, but as your stating its giving Shadow of Defense which is just taking up a buff slot with no benies... so looking back over the item this clicky isn't required to get the benifits of Form of Defense as it actives soon as its donned, and here i thought I had new clickies i had overlooked :bang: :bang: :bang:
no, you don't get the benefit from the form of defense as soon as it is donned.

like i said - you click it once and it unlocks an AA in your special AA tab granting you a now permanently unlocked AA - after you have unlocked the AA in your special AA tab, until you get a better version, there is no reason to click it again

I'm not sure if you're just not reading what i'm writing, or i'm being confusing.
 
@Sic No it was me not following what you were saying... I'm old and senile and have just caught up in EQ at a point where i left off at 13yrs ago, this click to get an AA is new to me. but i got it now, click 1 time and the AA is now always available as a Passive AA. I'm blaming EQ for making it confusing with the click and I sticking to it...
 
@Sic No it was me not following what you were saying... I'm old and senile and have just caught up in EQ at a point where i left off at 13yrs ago, this click to get an AA is new to me. but i got it now, click 1 time and the AA is now always available as a Passive AA. I'm blaming EQ for making it confusing with the click and I sticking to it...
yes! woot

invisible gold star for you! (kidding)

I do agree it is "uh, wtf, and uh, why".

eq has a bunch of weird stuff like that over the "middle years" of the game - I had a similar experience with a bunch of things the first time i came back
 
@Sic I'll accept that inviso gold star... :dance: :dance: :dance: I think i having an easier time with the old MQ2 coming back than I am with the old EQ coming back... and KA is better than the old MQ2 i used.

Thanks
 
so i want to add the useage of crystal mana tonic ( lasts 4 hours or untill death)(mana saver) and Restless focus ( lasts 2 hours) ( extrea dps) is there a way to do that? or do i just have to make a key to make everyone use the pots during my buffing?
 
so i want to add the useage of crystal mana tonic ( lasts 4 hours or untill death)(mana saver) and Restless focus ( lasts 2 hours) ( extrea dps) is there a way to do that? or do i just have to make a key to make everyone use the pots during my buffing?
you would add them to downtime

downtime is "am i downtime, not fighting stuff, and am i missing a buff this item says it gives, and as far as i know, the buff stacks, if so cast this item"

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you would add them to downtime

downtime is "am i downtime, not fighting stuff, and am i missing a buff this item says it gives, and as far as i know, the buff stacks, if so cast this item"

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and they wont spam cast even tho they are called diffrently from what the actual item is? the buff is called potion - Restless focus while the item is just restless focus
 
and they wont spam cast even tho they are called diffrently from what the actual item is?
well i did post screenshots of them working as expected.

the items say they give the buff "Potion - Restless Focus" and that is the buff they give, so nope, we won't chain cast them.
 
well i did post screenshots of them working as expected.

the items say they give the buff "Potion - Restless Focus" and that is the buff they give, so nope, we won't chain cast them.

awesome awesome
you da best
 
Is there a way to do teh add clicky, downtime, but not with any mobs on xtar? Seems my war will click his clickys with mobs in camp if he does not directly have aggro
 
Is there a way to do teh add clicky, downtime, but not with any mobs on xtar? Seems my war will click his clickys with mobs in camp if he does not directly have aggro
we don't do downtime if you have mobs on xtarget already.

if you're already casting something and something goes on xtarget, that is another story because you were already casting it
 
are you sure you're not dying or something, and your game/ui is taking too long to populate your xtarget?

I can add an on zoned check, but as far as mobs on xtarget, we already check that
 
ya, it's casting with mobs on xtar for sure, and yes, they are after a rez it seems. so that fraction of a second it takes to put mob on xtar, it clicks the buff instead
 
ya, it's casting with mobs on xtar for sure, and yes, they are after a rez it seems. so that fraction of a second it takes to put mob on xtar, it clicks the buff instead
well 100% we don't cast if there are mobs on xtarget like i mentioned.

I just explained a scenario that could happen, where you don't yet have mobs on xtarget because of game lag, fps lag, latency, old-ass-game, etc, from zoning which included "but as far as mobs on xtarget, we already check that " :)

C++:
// We don't want to do these downtime things for mq2war if we have xtargets
    if (NumXTargets())
        return;

I will add the on-zoned check, as i already mentioned as well =)
 
also note I'm not sure if war is technically leaving the zone or not when they die and get rezzed, unless the timer runs out of course
 
Doing some character maintenance and noticed I don't have the cleric BP set up, but this brings up a question. Is there a way to set up Cleric's BP to cast the merciful shield on the tank?
 
Doing some character maintenance and noticed I don't have the cleric BP set up, but this brings up a question. Is there a way to set up Cleric's BP to cast the merciful shield on the tank?
from MQ2Cleric / CWTN Commons patch notes:

- "Mercifucl Shield" addclicky burn usage:
-- If you have a "Merciful Shield" item added to your burn addclicky, you will now target your MA before usage.
 
Ok just checking after reading this thread I tied to set up my war to use his clickie buffs. So I did /war addclicky downtime with item on cursor and it added to my ini. I added the 8 item buff clickies and during down time my war will just spam click the top clickie. If I edit the ini to ignore top it will spam click the next one. I am guessing I did something wrong.

In my ini it looks something like:
clicky#=ItemName|downtime
 
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