Question - Wiz as puller need him to stand still and cast!

[Razkle]

This is my General,melee and pull section but all he does is run up to the mob and if it agros he runs it back to camp, I need him to stand still and just cast on any mob in range to pull it in.... The pyroblade does not care about LOS it only cares about range which is 200. So I need to pull ANYTHING within 200 of my wiz?!?!

[General]
KissAssistVer=7.3
Role=Pullertank
CampRadius=195
CampRadiusExceed=500
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=50MedOn=1
MedStart=25
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=5
HoTTOn=1
CampfireOn=0

[Melee]
AssistAt=98
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=0
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0

[Pull]
PullWith=Lithara's Pyroblade
MaxRadius=50
MaxZRange=195
PullWait=0

 

[eqgeek]

You have the max radius set to 50. Seems like you need to increase that... Try 1000

 

[Razkle]

I had it at 200 and my wiz keeps running up to mobs and just standing there, I need him to stand still and cast to pull mobs to the group, will test it at 1000 though.....

 

[playj]

Does your wizard have Flux Staff ? http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=57

If so, set Staff as the pulling method. Lower Element effect is 200 range.

Flux Staff can be cast while running and is the best pulling tool that a class can have. So many fond memories of being the puller for old style AOE groups...
I still have not found an alternative on other classes. (SK instant dots have recast)

 

[Razkle]

I was using the Lithara's Pyroblade because it will pull even when the mob is not in LOS and it stops named mobs from summoning me away. I will look and see if I have the flux staff...

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Tested it and he still just runs up to the next mob and stands there! Am I phrasing the question wrong? I do NOT want my wiz to MOVE, EVER! I want him to target the next mob and cast a spell that pulls the mob to the waiting arms of the group.... I do this all day manually I just wanted to have kiss do it for me.....

 

[Crystane]

It can be done, but I think the pull section needs to be tweaked for it so it does a proper range check.

 

[Razkle]

that is why I was doing 195 to try to do 200 or less but I cannot seem to get him to stand still and cast?!?! I read somewhere about it stops at 65% of the range of X which would be 130 but even at 130 he still runs up to the mob, as in on top of it and then stands there..... currently I use a target next mob and a hotkey to cast the spell I want and it works perfectly..... Nice thing is it will pull a named without you getting summoned, the named kills my temp pet then comes to get me in camp..... and dies!

 

[Crystane]

There are 2 lines that need to be changed at least, due to LineOfSight. 1. KA determines your spells range (200) and divides it by 1.25, so it uses PullRange 160. Next in the Pull Sub it decreases the PullRange gradually if no LineOfSight. Also you get KA not to determine your Target as valid if no Line of Sight.

I am working to post the lines to change so you get it working. Need to make KA check if you use a swordspell and therefor ignore the LineOfSight.

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Ok here is something for ya to test, pepe.

In your Kissassist.mac find

/if (!${Target.LineOfSight} && !${Select[${Role},hunter]} && ${PullTimer}) {

and change it to

/if (!${Target.LineOfSight} && !${Select[${Role},hunter]} && ${PullTimer} && (${PullWith.Find[Sword]}<1 && ${PullWith.Find[blade]}<1)) {

next find

/if (${Select[${Role},puller,pullertank]} && !${Target.LineOfSight} && !${Navigation.MeshLoaded}) /return NoLOS

and change it to

/if (${Select[${Role},puller,pullertank]} && !${Target.LineOfSight} && !${Navigation.MeshLoaded} && (${PullWith.Find[Sword]}<1 && ${PullWith.Find[blade]}<1)) /return NoLOS

Sadly I cant test the code myself atm. Please let us know, if it works as intended now.
Crystane.

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In any case you will be only able to pull mobs within a Radius of 160 with your method atm and without moveing. If you set to pull a greater area your Wiz as puller will move.

 

[Maskoi]

That should work.

 

[Razkle]

AWESOME thanks for the hand and info, testing it today.... I macro VERY conservatively and in a certain style, call me crazy.....

 

[Maskoi]

You are fucking crazy who pulls with a wizard? They are too squishy.

I would use a lower level pet spell too so it doesn't get you summoned.

 

[Crystane]

Maskoi, pulling with a wiz is an art. I used to pull for my guild in anguish. Insta clicky pull, snare and petpull, evacs and mage calls and you get some splits, any necro, mnk and bard would be proud of. You never saw a wizard pet pull a mob, then invis up and drag the mob thru a bunch of other mobs to whereever he liked. Well then you never saw me play my wizard. I was also famous for tanking Vishimtar for 2 minutes as the MT went down on enrage and we only had that one. We killed Vish with me tanking it all the way to the end, hehe. So much for squishy! But I admit going geared and able to tank Vish I still got one rounded on my first aggro on first visit of grounds at lvl 85 lol. I can tank anything in grounds by now on my wiz.

Note: I took a couple years off of EQ inbetween, therefor the oldshool gear on first visit of grounds hehe.

 

[ilikecake]

Maskoi, pulling with a wiz is an art. I used to pull for my guild in anguish. Insta clicky pull, snare and petpull, evacs and mage calls and you get some splits, any necro, mnk and bard would be proud of. You never saw a wizard pet pull a mob, then invis up and drag the mob thru a bunch of other mobs to whereever he liked. Well then you never saw me play my wizard. I was also famous for tanking Vishimtar for 2 minutes as the MT went down on enrage and we only had that one. We killed Vish with me tanking it all the way to the end, hehe. So much for squishy! But I admit going geared and able to tank Vish I still got one rounded on my first aggro on first visit of grounds at lvl 85 lol. I can tank anything in grounds by now on my wiz.

Note: I took a couple years off of EQ inbetween, therefor the oldshool gear on first visit of grounds hehe.

I miss the game pace and balance back then when casters would get summoned by raid mobs and could live... Group geared Rangers, Beastlords, and Zerkers could sub in as group main tank for current group content if you couldn't find a Plate tank.... I mean, they still can, I've seen it, but you know what i mean, i'd rather gouge my eye out with a fork these days.

 

[Razkle]

I am SO fucking crazy yes, my wiz is my best geared toon and his merc is also a wiz so as the mob comes in he get the holy shit blasted out of him!

You are fucking crazy who pulls with a wizard? They are too squishy.

I would use a lower level pet spell too so it doesn't get you summoned.

Both me and my merc will usually take 250k hp off any mob as it enters camp, then my merc holds him and the party mops up....

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My setup is 3 toons - 3 mercs, I try to have 1 gold 2 silver/free accounts.... the gold account has a J5 caster they 2 silvers are both healers. I can look like I am AFK leveling this way and it seems to draw a lot less attention from passerbys. I am working upto a 5 or 6 man team but so far don't have everyone to 100 yet.... My wiz is a well geared 100 and the other 2 are 90+ toons that I am bringing up to 100..... Will swap the SK for the wiz when he gets to 100....

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at 95 my wiz was tanking shards and west karana, did I die, yes, but I also made it to 100 molo with him with a lot of help from mq2

 

[Crystane]

So does pulling with the wizardswarmpet work as you want it to now?

 

[Maskoi]

This will be Incorporated into Kiss 7.5 in a few weeks as part of the Pullerpet role. Info here http://www.redguides.com/community/showthread.php/28522-Mean-while-back-at-the-Red-Guides-Guild-Hall

 

[Razkle]

I find in my use of kissassist I like to feel more in control of the group not have my tank/puller run off but to instead find a spot and pull everything in range to the group, in range as in his casting range...