What the hell is up with this?

[Unknown69]

Why did Code get banned, thats such bullshit... You guys act like the others played no hand in this.

That is totally biased, can't believe the admin sided with worthless trolls.

 

[Ccomp5950]

http://forums.notaddicted.com/showthread.php?t=22680

Temp Banned for making ultimatums of the Moderator and Admin team. (7 days)

See the first and last post.

 

[hoosierbilly]

I support this ban. In the years I've been with redguides evertime I see posts by codecompiler they cause drama and turmoil. I don't usually pay much attention, but enough is enough.

Added:

Thank you Meeskino and Village for alerting us less "experienced" (ok, barely functional on a computer) users to what was going on.

 

[sebastienjuly]

I'm siding with CC on this one. I know people get pissed off by CC but the dude is a freaking genius. until those who rip on him accomplish what he has then there is not much room for debate. the program he added in was not a Trojan and he gave everyone the opportunity to not use it if they were uneasy or unsure.


--just want to clarify my point, was it necessary to rip on someone who actually post complies with cool shit in it to the point where he withdraws his compile? that is BS... because some people would actually like to use some stuff from him in the future. instead CC gone for 7 days and will probably never bother to share with you assholes again.

 

[Jmo]

Here's the deal for those siding with CC. He was saying "Ban these people or I'm gone." That's placing an ultimatum on the admins and mods here. No one else was saying that. While I have stood up for CC where he wasn't causing drama and others were, they have never made an ultimatum to the admins.

No user here is more important than any other. All I asked was that the drama were to stop. CC just needed to be the better person and not fuel the flames. Not only did he fuel them, he was telling us how to do our jobs. He is only temp banned, and is free to continue posting when the ban is lifted. I will stand up for any of the members here to be free to post, but don't tell us how to do our jobs (which we do voluntarily).

 

[meeskino]

I have nothing against CC, nor I wanted him to get banned. I was just letting people know that he is adding some malicious program to compiles.

Once you run this .exe, it will connect to CC-s servers doing something. If CC is good enough, he can tell these .exes what to do next. He can start sending spam, keylog, save your credit card infos, whatever. sky is the limit.

I'm not telling this because I don't like CC. I don't like such add-ons. I been working for F-Secure 99-2001 and have my own business since dealing security issues. This was an issue.

If you want to share your stuff, fine, but don't be an ass and add trojans/viruses into that stuff. It's like these jerks with keygenerators for different programs. They help you use a program for free, but at the same time hijacking your PC. So which is better? Getting a cool compile and not controlling your PC or waiting a bit and get clean compiles from other members?

 

[Alatyami]

As a side note, CC posted this on the BlackHatWorld site in 2008:

Well maybe not 100 dollars... But 20's 100's are kinda suspect No seriously we at my site do packet obfusication and take opcodes and structures and change the timer basis and setup as a plugin that acts like a reoccuring script that well can manage itself for hours. Also even though we do it for games the possibilities to change these for regular desktop programs is off the wall.

But so far its been fairly friendly to see who people are and how much people actually try to come on to things. Some found before I removed the proxy that we had a IP tracker / logger. most forums should have. We also have been bulk compiling up VPN's to be able to block also. But then again I got like 20 little 15 year old hackers that keep playing around from a couple other sites that are competition.

But not like finding loop holes and being able to abuse them. As long as you do somethings legal. IE if you create a program that does something illegal. Be smart copywrite it but make it FREEWARE! and a disclaimer for users. It is something we had to do. And also only charge people if you have a site for access to the server bandwith. also posted in the disclaimer.

I'm not trying to start a fire nor am I making any comments towards CC. The above is from his post. Granted it is from 2 years ago, so it could be out of context as the first part alludes to MQ2, but why would you want MQ2 to interact with your desktop apps (other than your web browser)?

 

[Jmo]

Also, as more information is coming to light about this "fluxSEO", it gets shadier and shadier.

Let me be clear about something. I came to bat for CC. Most sites won't even let him be a member, nor tolerate anything he has to say. I wanted to give him a fresh start and allow him to be a part of the community here, without being judged. He is still welcome to do so, but any kind of programs that cannot be explained, and are now proven to be invasive, as well as against the law, will not be tolerated.

When CCs ban is up (it's only 1 week), he is more than welcome to continue posting here. But as far as I'm concerned, the FluxSEO is out and will not be allowed without proper documentation and the ability to decide whether or not you want to use it. From what I'm being told, it is auto-running and you have to actually go into your MSConfig and turn it off, which is the same thing Spyware and Trojans do in order to gain access to your computer. I like CC, and have never had a personal problem with him, but I also will stand by the mods and admins here in their decisions, especially when it comes to keeping the community here safe.

 

[eqnotaddicted]

Can someone with more info let me know?

CC's post said that it was optional. If we did dl his compile, but did not run anything regarding "flux", did something start it anyway? If so? it is viewable in task manager?

I guess.. aka.. Should everyone that DL'd his compile do anything to protect ourselves from his compile (other than not using it) and if so, what should we do?

I'm thinking I'm not the only one here that might be wondering. Any help from any of the folks here?

 

[Alatyami]

If anyone has his compile and would like this matter invested more, please email it to [email protected]

 

[Ccomp5950]

It looks as if you didn't actually run the file then it didn't load it from anywhere else.

I swear to God you people calling him CC are confusing me.

 

[Alatyami]

We're talking about Credit Card or the CComp guy?

 

[eqnotaddicted]

Alatyami, I removed from my system all traces of the DL. (that I could find) if anyone else forwards you the compile, please include everyone in your discovery.

Ccomp5950, Appreciate the feedback.

Thanks.

 

[Alez]

Codecompiler has always been dirty. If you've been around compiles for a long time you can go back through the amount of drama and dirty shit he's been involved in. He's screwd so many people out of cash on ghostkill, etc. If you're defending him, go back and look at his history. Check the amount of accounts hacked or banned by buying items/powerleveling or mods from him.

I'd rather see a permanent suspension, in my opinion every thread he publishes should come with a disclaimer that he may be stealing your info, using your accounts for powerleveling, testing his hacks, and getting you banned.

I'm normally pretty neutral here but there is no way in hell I'd trust a thing he compiles. "Genius" you may call him, an intelligent crook is a better description. He's been a drag on the Macroquest world since the first compile he published publicly.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Alez]

Just an FYI on FluxSEO:
It's a program that can be used two ways:
1) Legit Use
2) Denial of Service Attacks.

Don't run this mess. It's a command and control botnet. It will allow him to send commands to your computer and force your computer to go request websites. It's an excellent way to get a 10,000 user botnet to ddos websites. Stay away from this.

 

[sebastienjuly]

Well, I have to say I was probably wrong to defend CC. I was just pissed cuz the guy actually contributes in a way that is... well most people are very dependent on people who can compile.. duh... and the whole genus thing ya intelligent is true but I figured it was some ego crap going on. so officially sorry lol.

 

[Ccomp5950]

Nothing wrong with having an opinion and I've never claimed to be a nice guy...But it doesn't matter how big a contributor you are, if you break the rules, you are still breaking the rules.

It's not a secret opinion of mine, I've dealt with it from the day I became a moderator.

 

[Alez]

Well, I have to say I was probably wrong to defend CC. I was just pissed cuz the guy actually contributes in a way that is... well most people are very dependent on people who can compile.. duh... and the whole genus thing ya intelligent is true but I figured it was some ego crap going on. so officially sorry lol.

No apology needed to me, sir

I was simply standing on my soapbox as I tend to do sometimes. So my apologies if I come off a bit harsh to everyone else in the thread as well. I didn't mean it against anyone but CodeCompiler.

 

[blade2580]

Codecompiler has always been dirty. If you've been around compiles for a long time you can go back through the amount of drama and dirty shit he's been involved in. He's screwd so many people out of cash on ghostkill, etc. If you're defending him, go back and look at his history. Check the amount of accounts hacked or banned by buying items/powerleveling or mods from him.

I'd rather see a permanent suspension, in my opinion every thread he publishes should come with a disclaimer that he may be stealing your info, using your accounts for powerleveling, testing his hacks, and getting you banned.

I'm normally pretty neutral here but there is no way in hell I'd trust a thing he compiles. "Genius" you may call him, an intelligent crook is a better description. He's been a drag on the Macroquest world since the first compile he published publicly.

Just my 2 cents.

Well in all honesty after what happened to me last week on my WoW account being hacked for the first time. I seriously believe that CC did have a virus in his compiles. I am generally very safe when it comes to online activity and nobody else has ever had access to my account. I agree with you that he is a dirty scammer, and i would really like to get my hands on him.

 

[Ccomp5950]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Dru didn't yank your wow account. The software he included doesn't behave like that. It's not a keyloader it just runs instructions that are pulled from a central server. Think like a botnet, a botnet that he wants to use to click on certain websites using keyword searches to improve their rankings in search engines (hence SEO).

 

[User]

I think the biggest issue overall is yes, the software being in there is a little unsettling. But I am failing to understand why folks didn;t just grab the launcher, and the application, permanently delete them before ever runnin the compile. Then... even if there is a call in his mq2 to fire up flux, there is no flux to run.

Seems to me a lot of people have also lost site of what exactly goes on with MQ2 and a good portion of the community. People don't come here to DL software to assist SOE in program development and customer support. To the best of my knowledge people come here to find ways to cheat, bomb the system, and exploit the game.

Kinda seems to me expecting to not have to look at things from time to time is kind of like expecting to send your kids to a daycare run and staffed by known pedifiles, and expecting things woul dbe "just fine", because they seemed like nice enough guys at the time.

I personally never had any issues with code, but at the same time, I never used his compiles as none of the toys I was interested in from his stuff worked for me.

I am also wondering how many of the folks pointin fingers, screamin the sky is falling just happened to surf 3 hours of porn after downloading the compile. So far I saw a bunch of folks allowed to stir codecompiler all up and get him all pissed, but didn;t see any .reg entries, install logs, or anything else to indicate a trojan hidden in the compile itself. He told EVERYONE Flux SEO was in the folder, and to remove it if they didn;t want it, or to leave it, and it would autorun in the background.

Ohs well, guess admins have to pick one side or another of drama, I have no side on this one lol I DLd it to try it after all the sky is fallin drama folks fired in, deleted and removed flux SEO from compile prior to runnin and got nada.

 

[meeskino]

I think the biggest issue overall is yes, the software being in there is a little unsettling. But I am failing to understand why folks didn;t just grab the launcher, and the application, permanently delete them before ever runnin the compile. Then... even if there is a call in his mq2 to fire up flux, there is no flux to run.

Seems to me a lot of people have also lost site of what exactly goes on with MQ2 and a good portion of the community. People don't come here to DL software to assist SOE in program development and customer support. To the best of my knowledge people come here to find ways to cheat, bomb the system, and exploit the game.

Kinda seems to me expecting to not have to look at things from time to time is kind of like expecting to send your kids to a daycare run and staffed by known pedifiles, and expecting things woul dbe "just fine", because they seemed like nice enough guys at the time.

I personally never had any issues with code, but at the same time, I never used his compiles as none of the toys I was interested in from his stuff worked for me.

I am also wondering how many of the folks pointin fingers, screamin the sky is falling just happened to surf 3 hours of porn after downloading the compile. So far I saw a bunch of folks allowed to stir codecompiler all up and get him all pissed, but didn;t see any .reg entries, install logs, or anything else to indicate a trojan hidden in the compile itself. He told EVERYONE Flux SEO was in the folder, and to remove it if they didn;t want it, or to leave it, and it would autorun in the background.

Ohs well, guess admins have to pick one side or another of drama, I have no side on this one lol I DLd it to try it after all the sky is fallin drama folks fired in, deleted and removed flux SEO from compile prior to runnin and got nada.

User, he told about Flux when we pointed it out.

If he is planting trojan with his compiles, next step would be planting it into plugins/mq.exe itself. I know guys who can do it. The fact that code can't do it yet, does not mean he wount in future.

He is interested in running flux and earning money with it. He does not give a flying fuck what community of people he uses for it.

He is gathering botnet for his own purposes. That's why he bothers to release compiles here, can get his stuff more spread around.

If he was professional at what he is doing, he wouldnt be messing around with extra files like fluxseo.exe.

I'm really glad that he is a beginner at this and does not know how things can be done.

 

[eqnotaddicted]

"He told EVERYONE...it would autorun..."

He told EVERYONE Flux SEO was in the folder, and to remove it if they didn;t want it, or to leave it, and it would autorun in the background.

Is this true? Can't seem to find the post that he said this.

From what I can recall it was only to run if the user decided to click on it. If this is still a question I am likely going to format and reinstall the os on the questionable machine anyway (cause I am just that paranoid).

I considered removing it before I ran his compile, but did not have the prior experience with CodeC that some of you had and honestly wanted to help the guy by running his software if it turned out to be cool to do it.

I've since learned that this is the wrong site to be trusting on. We are coming here to cheat therefore it stands to reason that everyone here is a cheat, and don't be surprised when your fellow cheaters try to cheat you. "No honor among thieves", that kind of thing.

Lesson learned.

 

[Jmo]

Re: "He told EVERYONE...it would autorun..."

Is this true? Can't seem to find the post that he said this.

From what I can recall it was only to run if the user decided to click on it. If this is still a question I am likely going to format and reinstall the os on the questionable machine anyway (cause I am just that paranoid).

I considered removing it before I ran his compile, but did not have the prior experience with CodeC that some of you had and honestly wanted to help the guy by running his software if it turned out to be cool to do it.

I've since learned that this is the wrong site to be trusting on. We are coming here to cheat therefore it stands to reason that everyone here is a cheat, and don't be surprised when your fellow cheaters try to cheat you. "No honor among thieves", that kind of thing.

Lesson learned.

For what it's worth, I can guarantee you that not a single Admin/Mod here is out to cheat you. We do what we do for free because we care about the site and the community, not to make money.

 

[eqnotaddicted]

Re: "He told EVERYONE...it would autorun..."

For what it's worth, I can guarantee you that not a single Admin/Mod here is out to cheat you. We do what we do for free because we care about the site and the community, not to make money.

Thanks JMO, that was kinda my point. Either we are a mostly trusting community, based on the combined reports of others, or we are not?

I would have actually liked to help CodeC. Or anyone here. (maybe we could all be folding, or scanning the skies for aliens, or cracking the newest RC5 client.. whatever) Or running some wacky program that counts traffic hits on search engines.. OR whatever the hell that program did.

I'd rather trust, but verify, and not entertain the alternative. But that's just my 2cp. YMMV

 

[VillageIdiot]

The point is, some of us have been around here a bit longer than others. We have seen what goes on and what has happened. I have not flamed once, i merely have commented about things i know to let the lesser informed be informed. It has been modded and removed which made me a sad panda that people are so willing to turn a blind eye.

Being informed in a cheating community about the dealings of other cheaters in the past good or bad imo is a good idea for the entire community. Just because someone is contributing, i guess here at NA that means we turn a blind eye on past dealings with these people.

Me personally, i will not turn the blind eye on someone if they have screwed me over or i have seen them screw over many people. Believe me or not i do not care either way. I just wanted to try to help out but screw it you all make your bed. You go ahead and lay in it. Trust me it will come back to bite you in the ass.

Ccomp/Jmo you guys do a great job here keep up the good work.

Yammers!!! Where you been!? maybe i'm just not around enough. just wanted to say wassup!

anyway this is my 2cp in the whole matter. Mod this if ya want either way, don't hate for trying to just let people know!


(THIS JUST IN!!!!! Man busted for DUI. This is his 3rd DUI!!!!
TWO WEEKS LATER,

He applies to drive a bus for the local Kindergarten class.
It's ok we just won't tell you about his previous DUI's and we will
hire him to drive your children around because well he seemed like
a nice guy!)

NOT MY KID!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[User]

I wasn;t arguing either way, nor was I knocking anyone hehe. I was just pointing out the fact that his compile did have a Disclaimer when I came across it, perhaps it was after admins called him on it. No ones a good guy or a bad guy here hehe, IO just think like anything you do with your computer, on any site, anywhere, whether it's a free site, a pay site, or whatever, make sure you have an idea what you are clicking yes to DL. It could be something from me or JMO who perhaps were unknowingly transmitting something that automatically placed itself in a compile because our systems were already infected. There are folks out there that are THAT good. Any file you compile, or compress, email, upload, they could froeseeably setup a subroutine that would auto-attach said file to any outgoin transmission in a prepackaged autoinstaller format that mimicced a normal icon an dactivated whenever you tried to retrieve said file.

But yeah, I have heard lots by the way of dealings folks have had in the past, I was merely stating the fact that yes, it is ultimately a community of people hell bent on getting ahead in EQ, often via "nonconventional" means, and many folks treat their real life and businesses the same way hehe.

 

[CodeCompiler]

Ok simply put. I was simply putting out a way to have people be able to donate for the time. With out costing people additional actual funds.. Simply put our system runs through and only pulls a php file we can't push content. I have verified this with Alatyami and will also put it out there that anyone super curious about anything we are truly doing just ask.

I have verified my source code to Alatyami and the reasons why I don't post my code. People may dislike myself for putting out ND previously and saying it ruined the content of the game "I'm Sorry" the difference is if it wasn't me then it would of been someone else. Sadly enough my issue came down to 2 things. 1 being able to pay my devs cause well they all wanted more and more and got more and more then expected it.

Then the next step of the issue was we had multiple times a ND about to launch and previous devs that found out or figured out how we did it purposely screwed it over. In a attempt to stop me from releasing again. See what you all don't truly understand is no Developer wants to put out a ND. Why? Cause its more profitable for us to keep it to ourselves.

Now I know I have been working on doing things left and right and luckly at mmoplugins.com I have had some very very loyal members. Now I am not making promises and nor will I. But I will be honest with you all and that is we are working on new content. We are looking to get more things out for you all. That's been the honest truth. Now you may say WHY CODE DO YOU CHARGE A ARM AND A LEG! Simply put.. It was the only true way at the time that we could put a form of restriction from having irresponsible people from having it.

I couldn't justify seeing a 15 year old finding enough $ to be able to pay for it. Just to find out well it doesn't matter the age cause people would put on a Credit card level up 15 accts get geared and sell them.. Then chargeback what they had sent. It was a harsh reality and yeah it pissed me off alot.

Personally I want to have people wanting to load my stuff.. It does make me money and it doesn't cost anyone anything. But at the same point in time I didn't want to load it into my compile which would be simple. Cause I wanted the users to be aware of it and to have a choice. I am not here to ask anyone to be on my side or anything. Some people may have a point of view not the same as mine and well that is ok. Everyone is has the right to have there own opinion.

Am I sorry for putting out ND ? Yes... Sadly I would of made more keeping it to myself. I wouldn't of had charge-backs and I wouldn't of had other people and developers trying to set me up for failure. Which they hoped would lead to the downfall of MMOPlugins.com.

Sadly I don't have the time anymore to be able to fight with people. If people want to work on new projects and work on new toys, great let me know. I have a ventrilo EVERYONE is welcome too.
IP: vent.fluxproject.net port : 27634

As I have explained to people I give everyone a option to do something. I got admins working on cleaning up content and giving it out to you all asap including my macro list and everything. But understand I am giving away everything here and don't make a profit or anything. So to accuse me of being greedy and or wrong well simply doesn't seem or feel fair. So it does make the New Yorker in me come out. As for anything else if someone wants to talk or be able to chat at me or ask as question about anything I got you can join my ventrilo and we can chat and get any questions answered and handled.

Thanks
CodeCompiler

 

[Alatyami]

I believe that this is a good ending point to this thread .... Readers in the future can make up their minds ... we have a new future in front us .... seriously ... tomorrow is another day in the future ... well unless someone goes back in time and screws everything up.

:judge

 

[Jmo]

I want to add something as well. Thank you to everyone, especially in the last few posts here, for keeping it not only acceptable, but drama-free and mature!

Guys, we have an amazing community here, and while there may be drama from time to time, everyone here always seems to come together in the end. And that's one of the things that keeps me coming back.

I hope that everyone takes what Yammers said to heart. Tomorrow is a new day. Let's all start fresh and make NotAddicted the best community and website that it can be.