Problem - What AssistList suppose to do??

[magna]

Hello!
Tyvm for RGMerc, love to use it.

I think I not understand at all what AssistList suppose to do, so am asking what is this function purpose?

My thinking is that AssistList suppose to let me add list of char that will be "assist" in combat, if they are in group or outside group it will check this list and assist someone who is in fight, if they are able.
Example: I have 2 group, then group-1 finish fight mob-A and has no target, so it check AssistList and see that group-2 is fight mob-B, so then group-1 go attack mob-B.
Example: group-1 fight mob-A, but tank die. So then mob-A attack group-1 healer. Since group-1 healer is on AssistList, then group-1 will fight mob instead of stand there and die like RGMerc do right now if tank die.

Is the example correct or wrong?
In my use, I put all char in 2 group on AssistList.
My AssistList look like:
Group-1-Tank
Group-2-Tank
Group-1-Healer
Group-2-Healer
Group-2-Bard
Group-1-DPS(4 names)
Group-2-DPS(3 names)
I remove ${Me} from all char assist list, so no char has name of self on list.
Then, with 2 group, every char have 11 names on AssistList.

But then, if AssistList <enable>, group-2 set group-1-tank as "assist target" (/xtar 2), and then all char in group-2 refuse fight any mob until group-1-tank fight a mob.
So with assistlist enable, group-2 can not fight any mob by itself. :{

I do not understand what is purpose of AssistList. What to use it for? Is this only for raid? How to set to have more than 1 assist? Even in raid, will want to have main tank and off tank but this will not work with AssistList? or? How to set up?
I was hope that AssistList update will make RGMerc work better each single char. It work good as full group, but for example: when tank die, then all char in group stand there and die, they keep spamming "clear target", because tank dead, and not able to assist tank.
Also was hope that it let me run 2 group nearby and they help eachother.
Right now, nothing of this is working like that, and now I dont understand what AssistList is suppose to do at all?
tvym for help to explain! :}

 

[Algar]

The function of the assist list is, again, listed at the very top of the assist guide:

The "Outside Assist List" is now simply the "Assist List". Many times, we aren't "outside" at all, and the term could be misleading.

• Any time we want to assist someone that does not carry the appropriate EQ main assist role (in our raid/group), this list will/must be used.

The assist list is for anytime you want people to assist someone who is not your assigned Group MA (in groups) or Raid MA (in raids).
It isn't for running 2 groups doing 2 different things. I don't believe we have ever indicated that was the case.

I was hope that AssistList update will make RGMerc work better each single char. It work good as full group, but for example: when tank die, then all char in group stand there and die, they keep spamming "clear target", because tank dead, and not able to assist tank.

This only happens if you have the fallback assist setting disabled. You will always fallback to yourself as the MA otherwise.

Also was hope that it let me run 2 group nearby and they help eachother.

This is not the function of the assist list. It is possible, but it would require additional scripting outside of RGMercs.

This could've been asked in the assist guide thread, instead of a third post about it.

 

[magna]

The function of the assist list is, again, listed at the very top of the assist guide:

The assist list is for anytime you want people to assist someone who is not your assigned Group MA (in groups) or Raid MA (in raids).

Yes that function will be great. But, right now, it not work that way.
Right now, if I put ANY other char on AssistList, then the #1 person on AssistList become the MA for that group.
Example:
Group-2 (all char) I put Group-1-Tank on AssistList.
Then, Group-2 all set /xtar #2 = Group-1-Tank. Can not remove from xtar, it auto set again. (before, without AssistList, /xtar #2 = Group-2-Tank for group-2). Also, Group-2 (all char) only assist Group-1-Tank (#1 on AssistList for Group-2).
They stop fight anything and even group-2-tank can not target any mob (spam "Target cleared").
Group-2 now sit and wait for group-1-tank (#1 on AssistList) to fight mob. Group-2 (all char) now can not target / attack any mob.
Must be some thing wrong with my setup, but if I disable AssistList for group-2, then group-2 fight normal like before.
Is any other setting I must make to use AssistList?

It isn't for running 2 groups doing 2 different things. I don't believe we have ever indicated that was the case.

OK, but would they not "help" because other group nearby, anyway?

This only happens if you have the fallback assist setting disabled. You will always fallback to yourself as the MA otherwise.

Ah! I find this setting, and set to "Always" :}

This is not the function of the assist list. It is possible, but it would require additional scripting outside of RGMercs.
This could've been asked in the assist guide thread, instead of a third post about it.

Oh! Sorry, I think that thread was locked for replying, but is not same thread as "release notes" thread. Can you move this post there??
tyvm!

 

[Algar]

You can set your assist list for whoever you want, however you want.
You cannot have the assist list assist *EVERYONE* on the list at the same time.
It will use the first valid assist.
You can set your assist lists individually for each toon to assist a certain person, e.g, you can set up Bob and Don to assist Shirley, and Georgia and Melody to assist Guy.
Please put any other functionality out of your mind. It is not designed for "oh, maybe I'll assist this guy, and if he doesn't have a target, I'll assist this guy".
You are free to script the appropriate setting changes to make that happen... I won't be doing it.
All of this should be in the assist guide thread that is not locked that I linked to you.
Please give the guide another looksie and post in that thread if you need any more assistance.

Yes that function will be great. But, right now, it not work that way.
Right now, if I put ANY other char on AssistList, then the #1 person on AssistList become the MA for that group.
Example:
Group-2 (all char) I put Group-1-Tank on AssistList.
Then, Group-2 all set /xtar #2 = Group-1-Tank. Can not remove from xtar, it auto set again. (before, without AssistList, /xtar #2 = Group-2-Tank for group-2). Also, Group-2 (all char) only assist Group-1-Tank (#1 on AssistList for Group-2).
They stop fight anything and even group-2-tank can not target any mob (spam "Target cleared").
Group-2 now sit and wait for group-1-tank (#1 on AssistList) to fight mob. Group-2 (all char) now can not target / attack any mob.
Must be some thing wrong with my setup, but if I disable AssistList for group-2, then group-2 fight normal like before.
Is any other setting I must make to use AssistList?


OK, but would they not "help" because other group nearby, anyway?


Ah! I find this setting, and set to "Always" :}


Oh! Sorry, I think that thread was locked for replying, but is not same thread as "release notes" thread. Can you move this post there??
tyvm!