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Question - Vishimtar The Fallen Macros/Help

geEQ

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One thing missing from Heroic Characters and upgrades of characters is the last DoN mission to kill Vishimtar The Fallen. I have a goal to try to box this fight singlehandedly with the help of KA or any other macro I can find to help. I have looked at some strats that say with five or fewer characters in the fight, the death touch becomes moot because it recycles before it runs out. Anyone have any experience with this?

I have also looked at the strats section here: http://www.redguides.com/community/showthread.php/7565-LFS-%28Looking-for-strats%29 which has a couple of macros, though with a little alteration could use mq2navigation instead of warp. Since running these macros would force me to unload my favorite macro, Kissassist, I wonder if there is a way to get the same functionality of the vish macros with either /holy statements or perhaps even using the plugin mq2events. Does anyone have any old ini files laying around that could help me in my quest?

Thanks for any advice or assistance you can offer.
 
I am working on Tier 4 of DoN (Good Side) right now, I have been manually doing everything other than just running KA before each fight. Once I get to this I will see if I have any updates I could give.
 
This was a challenge for a group of 87-90 toons. Probably doable but I couldn't organize it with boxed chars. With high 95+ decap berserkers all the mechanics were bypassed and he died in less than 30 seconds. It was easy to find people to help because it is quick, fun and still has useful drops. I would encourage anyone who hasn't done this progression to check it out. I enjoyed its lore and utility and made some friends along the way.

that was from allahkhazam's post on vish... honestly I think 4 boxing with 100s could easily do it in like 20-30 seconds
 
I just managed to 4-box Vishimtar The Fallen. I'm going to have to call bullshit on the idea of completely bypassing all of the mechanics mentioned in some Allahkhazam's posts like http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=3063. Damage stops at 25% without hailing the mournful spirits. I tried the vish macro, but kept running into the wall. I ended up having to do the "shoulder my burden" tells manually. That was a pita. If I do this for all of my heroic characters, I will set up a macro to /mqp, /target "a mournful spirit" and then say the phrase before I /mqp again and return to vish.

I did this raid with an SK, Cleric, Mage and Necro. All were 100 and max AA (thank you Blitter's "Into the Hills" macro). The mage and necro have EM 15 earrings, so they are good, but not top of the line. I should have probably made the cleric /stick to vish in some way so that he would come back after being knocked around by the mobs. The mage had to coth him twice. The sk just tanked vish and the cleric just healed. The Mage/necro burned to 25% and then they started doing the "shoulder my burden" tells and then returned to vish. The raid took maybe 10 or 15 minutes in all for the successful run. Nine scales drop. You cannot add players to the raid after Vish is dead.

I still want to try to automate a bit of this. I should probably get a mesh of the zone to avoid the wall and see if I can hotkey the process of stopping the dps on vish and going to a spirit.

Anyone else care to share your strategies?
 
geEQ,

I to ran into the same problem with my SK/Bard/Wizard team. Once I the dragon down to 25% health would not go down further. I didn't read up on the ZAM site for specifics so I didn't know what I needed to do. I had about 20 adds from the spawns that my bard kept trying to mez. I finally just ported out with the wizard and did some reading.

I guess I need to make a hotkey for the phrase "shoulder my burden" myself. I am gonna try this again tonight, but keep my bard off of KA and just do a manual melody of my songs and let the SK hold aggro and my wizard DPS. Then run my bard around manually and say the phrase and see if I can't get the dragaon dead so I can get my Tier 5 DoN complete.

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that was from allahkhazam's post on vish... honestly I think 4 boxing with 100s could easily do it in like 20-30 seconds

I got Vish down to 25% in like 15 seconds, but as previously posted he as locked at 25%.
 
I still do not see how you can do Vish in 30 secs, if Vish is hardcoded to only go down 1% per "shoulder my burden" hail. So 4 boxing would need about 6x45 seconds(45 seconds is the time for Creeping Doom refresh) to get the last 24% .

Maybe such high DPS simply breaks the script?

I loved doing Time and Anguish solo although it was a bit too easy, this might be the next solo challenge.
 
Would using EQBC work? Tell your group to target the mournful spirits and say the phrase? If you have a bard or enchanter mezzing turn off the option in KA? Im not super handy at using EQBS but it might look like something below.

Rich (BB code):
/bca //mqp
/bca //tar Mournful Soul
/bca //say shoulder my burden
/bca //mqp
 
I have another couple of days on my Vish lockout. I was wondering if a good coder could take a look at the following before I try it. I am trying to put a couple of conditions in a downshit for my two characters who will pause during the fight to run to a mournful spirit using mq2navigate (and a mesh of the zone) and say the phrase. I altered the code from one of the Vish macros. We can have if statements in downshits right? Or would this be better used in an mq2event.ini file? Any thoughts?

Rich (BB code):
downflag1=1
downshit1=/if (${Me.Buff[Creeping Doom].ID} && ${Spawn[npc "a mournful spirit"].ID}) /multiline ; /squelch ; /mqp ; /target id ${NearestSpawn[npc "a mournful spirit"].ID} ; /navigate target ; /if (${Target.Distance} < 20 && ${Target.ID}) { /multiline ; /keypress h ; /delay 1 ; /say Shoulder My Burden ; /delay 3 ;/mqp} else {/multiline ; /delay 3; /mqp}

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Well this did not work at all. I will just have to go with hotkeys in game for the two runners. Maybe something like:
Rich (BB code):
downflag1=1
downshit1=/if (${Me.Buff[Creeping Doom].ID} && ${Spawn[npc "a mournful spirit"].ID}) /bc I have creeping doom. Send me.

Then swap to the correct EQ window:

Hotkey 1:
Rich (BB code):
/mqp
/target id ${NearestSpawn[npc "a mournful spirit"].ID}
/navigate target

Hotkey 2:
Rich (BB code):
/keypress h
/delay 1
/say Shoulder My Burden
/mqp
 
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Thanks Maskoi. I did not see that one in my previous searches. It is really similar to one of the other macros from the strategies section. My hope is to not use a separate macro so that I can keep kissassist running.
 
It was already done solo with a like 80 or 85 paladin.

That said I do believe zerker decap probably breaks the script much like how headshot/assassinate/decap broke the Hatchet script before the nerf to those abilities decreased the amount of times they go off.
 
It was already done solo with a like 80 or 85 paladin.

That said I do believe zerker decap probably breaks the script much like how headshot/assassinate/decap broke the Hatchet script before the nerf to those abilities decreased the amount of times they go off.

Do you know if the nerf prevents breaking the script now? I have enough SC to make a heroic Zerker and could try it sometime.

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When a cure from the mournful spirit is successful, there is the following emote: "The mournful spirit draws corruption from your body and absorbs it, destroying itself in the process." How can I create a condition for this emote?

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I am wondering if splitting up the conditions into separate /downs would work, like:
Rich (BB code):
downflag1=1
downflag2=1
downflag3=1
downshit1=/if (${Me.Buff[Creeping Doom].ID} && ${Spawn[npc "a mournful spirit"].ID}) /multiline ; /squelch ; /mqp ; /target id ${NearestSpawn[npc "a mournful spirit"].ID} ; /navigate target
downshit2=/if (${Me.Buff[Creeping Doom].ID} && ${Target.Name.Equal[a mournful spirit]} && (${Target.Distance} < 20) /multiline ; /keypress h ; /delay 1 ; /say Shoulder My Burden
downshit3=/if Equal[The mournful spirit draws corruption from your body and absorbs it, destroying itself in the process] /multiline ; /target vish ; /navigate target ; /mqp
 
Do you know if the nerf prevents breaking the script now? I have enough SC to make a heroic Zerker and could try it sometime.

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When a cure from the mournful spirit is successful, there is the following emote: "The mournful spirit draws corruption from your body and absorbs it, destroying itself in the process." How can I create a condition for this emote?

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I am wondering if splitting up the conditions into separate /downs would work, like:
Rich (BB code):
downflag1=1
downflag2=1
downflag3=1
downshit1=/if (${Me.Buff[Creeping Doom].ID} && ${Spawn[npc "a mournful spirit"].ID}) /multiline ; /squelch ; /mqp ; /target id ${NearestSpawn[npc "a mournful spirit"].ID} ; /navigate target
downshit2=/if (${Me.Buff[Creeping Doom].ID} && ${Target.Name.Equal[a mournful spirit]} && (${Target.Distance} < 20) /multiline ; /keypress h ; /delay 1 ; /say Shoulder My Burden
downshit3=/if Equal[The mournful spirit draws corruption from your body and absorbs it, destroying itself in the process] /multiline ; /target vish ; /navigate target ; /mqp

GeEQ did ever try your downflag? I haven't been back to finish up this DoN raid yet.
 
No, I have not tried this one yet. The last /down is a guess. I think this:
Rich (BB code):
downshit1=/if (${Me.Buff[Creeping Doom].ID} && ${Spawn[npc "a mournful spirit"].ID}) /multiline ; /squelch ; /mqp ; /target id ${NearestSpawn[npc "a mournful spirit"].ID} ; /navigate target
downshit2=/if (${Me.Buff[Creeping Doom].ID} && ${Target.Name.Equal[a mournful spirit]} && (${Target.Distance} < 20) /multiline ; /keypress h ; /timed 1 ; /say Shoulder My Burden ; /timed 1s ; /if (!${Me.Buff[Creeping Doom].ID}) /mqp
May actually work.
 
The only way you could "cheat" the script was from 15% and needed a crit blast with a glyph of destruction going to take him down. But at the "3 procs per min" as per soe you would have to get lucky, but getting 15 hail and melee the crap out of him and should win just fine. I think i have a caller script for vishti that tells the raid were each spawn and when the eggs spawn and on my dead HD i had wrote a spirit macro that handled all the moving to the mournfuls and shouldering.
 
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