Question - SOLVED: Pullertank standing in camp while merc gets beat to death

fuzzymelon · Jan 29, 2014

I still haven't determined exactly why this is happening as some of my more elegant attempts to fix this problem haven't worked, but I do seem to have found a workaround for the moment.

In the Assist function, under the line:

/if ((${MainAssist.Equal[${Me}]} || ${Select[${Role},tank,pullertank,pullerpettank]}>0) && !${Me.Hovering} && ${AggroTargetID}) {

I simply added,

/attack on

If you're using MQ2Navigation, this will cause your pullertank/tank to immediately path to your current target and engage. It's an ugly hack but hasn't seemed to have any bad side effects. I hope this helps others out there seeing this!

-Brian

Maskoi · Jan 29, 2014

Ya you don't want that there but i will l look into it tonight.

try /call Combat or whatever the combat sub is

fuzzymelon · Jan 31, 2014

Yep, definitely an ugly hack, but it's been working beautifully for 3+ days now. I also reduced the timer that waits for mobs to return to camp in case it's a caster that ends up aggroing my cleric. Looking forward to kiss 7!

Mordail · Mar 20, 2014

I've been having the same problems with KissAssist 6, but I haven't noticed it in KissAssist 7.

I thought it had to do with the distance my tank was willing to engage at (what he believed was "camp") but upgrading to KissAssist 7 seemed to have worked.

Mordail · Mar 22, 2014

Correction, tank is still pulling then sitting there doing nothing while it dies.

I have noticed that pulling with someone else prompts the tank assist rather quickly though.

Dutch_SK · Mar 23, 2014

I have a similar problem.

SK is my pullertank and if he looses agro to to my cleric, he just stands there and let's him die.

I think it might have to do with my campradius, cause I like to have my casters positioned a bit further behind me.

Gonna try to set campradius on my SK a bit higher and see if that solves it.

Will post the result here.

Maskoi · Mar 23, 2014

Don't do that it will fuck up your pulling.

How the fuck does a cleric pull aggro off an SK?

Dutch_SK · Mar 23, 2014

The HP aura or a HoT still ticking? That's the only things I can think of.

Tried pulling with provoke and hate spell, but 1/20 pulls the mob goes for the cleric during the pull and my sk just stands there holding his #*%# hehe

Mordail · Mar 24, 2014

Your cleric is likely healing hella early and getting massive agro (because that's what heals do). Pull agro is a good boost for your tank, but won't compete (initially) with your heals.

What are your cleric heals set to?

aligwilliams · Mar 24, 2014

pull with ______ for power.. it by far the best agro spell an sk get
and i havent tried this but try

Rich (BB code):

DPS1=hate's attraction|(at 100/99)

or maybe that would work in the hate section.

Mordail · Mar 24, 2014

That's what I pull with for my tank as well. Although atm, to correct this issue, I'm pulling with a slow from my BST.

Dutch_SK · Mar 24, 2014

This is my SK ini:

Rich (BB code):

[General]
KissAssistVer=7.0.2
Role=Pullertank
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=25
MedCombat=0
LootOn=1
RezAcceptOn=1
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=1
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=Whirligig Flyer Control Device|Mount
Buffs2=Shroud of the Shadeborne Rk. II
Buffs3=Drape of the Sepulcher Rk. II
Buffs4=Worag's Covenant Rk. II
Buffs5=Sholothian Horror Rk. II
Buffs6=Call of Shadow Rk. II
Buffs7=Voice of Thule|Me
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=Vile Fin Cloak
Buffs10=Band of Focused Terror
Buffs11=Life Leech Tentacle
Buffs12=Bubbling Shoulderpads
Buffs13=Ring of the Fearborn
Buffs14=Crystal-Studded Cummerbund
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
ChecKBuffsTimer=20
[Melee]
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell=Gift of Mana Spell
[AE]
AEOn=1
AERadius=30
AE1=Explosion of Spite|2|Mob
AE2=Explosion of Hatred|3|Mob
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=5
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Insidious Audacity Rk. II|99|Once
DPS2=Sholothian Skin Rk. II|95|Me
DPS3=Terror of Desalin Rk. II|90
DPS4=Terror of Rerekalen Rk. II|85
DPS5=Vicious Bite of Chaos|80
DPS6=Encroaching Darkness|30
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
Heals1=Touch of Urash Rk. II|55|Tap
Heals2=Dire Allegation Rk. II|25|Tap
Heals3=Innoruuk's Dark Blessing|60|Tap
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures=NULL
[Pet]
PetOn=0
PetSpell=Minion of Sholoth Rk. II
PetShrinkOn=1
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=1
PetBuffs1=Gift of Urash Rk. II
PetBuffs2=NULL
PetBuffs3=NULL
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetToysGave=  
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Provocation for Power Rk. II
MaxRadius=900
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

And his is my clerics one:

Rich (BB code):

[General]
KissAssistVer=7.0.2
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=75
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=1
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=Verdant Hedgerow Leaf|Mount
Buffs2=Cracked Gnaga Mask
Buffs3=Band of Focused Terror
Buffs4=Blue Belt
Buffs5=Amorphous Hide
Buffs6=Chipped Amethyst
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=Aura of the Pious|Aura
Buffs11=Unified Hand of Credence Rk. II|Dual|Credence Rk. II
Buffs12=Armor of the Zealous Rk. II
Buffs13=Shining Armor|MA
Buffs14=Rallied Armor of Vie Rk. II
Buffs15=Circle of Divinity|Aura
Buffs16=Infusion of the Faithful Rk. II
Buffs17=Divine Invocation Rk. II|MA
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
ChecKBuffsTimer=20
[Melee]
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=0
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell=Gift of Mana Spell
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=0
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=NULL
DPS2=NULL
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
Heals1=Zealous Light Rk. II|85
Heals2=Burst of Life|25|MA
Heals3=Word of Rehabilitation Rk. II|70
Heals4=Celestial Regeneration|80
Heals5=Divine Arbitration|40
Heals6=Faithful Remedy Rk. II|60
Heals7=Promised Restitution Rk. II|90
Heals8=Fourteenth Catalyst Rk. II|30
Heals9=Zealous Elixir Rk. II|95
Heals10=Bestow Divine Aura|30
XTarHeal=0
AutoRezOn=1
AutoRezWith=Blessing of Resurrection
[Cures]
CuresOn=1
Cures1=Radiant Cure
Cures2=Group Purify Soul
Cures3=Purify Soul
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
Burn1=Fundament: Third Spire of Divinity
Burn2=Celestial Rapidity
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

Mordail · Mar 24, 2014

Based on personal experience (cleric not healing early enough, and then too early) I'd recommend this for your cleric:

Rich (BB code):

[General]
KissAssistVer=7.0.2
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=75
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=1
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=Verdant Hedgerow Leaf|Mount
Buffs2=Cracked Gnaga Mask
Buffs3=Band of Focused Terror
Buffs4=Blue Belt
Buffs5=Amorphous Hide
Buffs6=Chipped Amethyst
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=Aura of the Pious|Aura
Buffs11=Unified Hand of Credence Rk. II|Dual|Credence Rk. II
Buffs12=Armor of the Zealous Rk. II
Buffs13=Shining Armor|MA
Buffs14=Rallied Armor of Vie Rk. II
Buffs15=Circle of Divinity|Aura
Buffs16=Infusion of the Faithful Rk. II
Buffs17=Divine Invocation Rk. II|MA
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
ChecKBuffsTimer=20
[Melee]
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=0
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell=Gift of Mana Spell
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=0
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=NULL
DPS2=NULL
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
Heals1=Promised Restitution Rk. II|95
Heals2=Zealous Elixir Rk. II|90
Heals3=Zealous Light Rk. II|85
Heals4=Celestial Regeneration|80
Heals5=Word of Rehabilitation Rk. II|70
Heals6=Faithful Remedy Rk. II|60
Heals7=Divine Arbitration|40
Heals8=Fourteenth Catalyst Rk. II|30
Heals9=Bestow Divine Aura|30
Heals10=Burst of Life|25|MA
XTarHeal=0
AutoRezOn=1
AutoRezWith=Blessing of Resurrection
[Cures]
CuresOn=1
Cures1=Radiant Cure
Cures2=Group Purify Soul
Cures3=Purify Soul
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
Burn1=Fundament: Third Spire of Divinity
Burn2=Celestial Rapidity
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

I have only changed 2 of your spells around, but your HoT generates massive aggro.

Dutch_SK · Mar 24, 2014

Okay, I adjusted those, will see how it goes =)

Dutch_SK · Mar 24, 2014

He still died =(

I am out of ideas now, only thing I can think of is set the campradius a bit higher, but Maskoi says it will screw up pulling.

Maskoi · Mar 24, 2014

Your tank can't aggro a mob off of any toon that is 50 100 200 away.
What are you pulling with? Might need to experiment with aggro pulling spells. turn off challenge of power in mq2melee and pull with that. Or high level snares with the dot component are high aggro too but that can get you summoned depending on what zone you are in. CampRadius=50 is probably the highest you want to go but if park your cleric right next to the tank and maybe even toss an ae aggro spell in dps at like |98 you should never have aggro problems. either that or go the baz and get the cleric some gear and defensive aas.

this is my 100 lv sk dps section and pull section

Rich (BB code):

DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=2
DPSInterval=20
DPS1=Ragged Bite Of Agony|97
DPS2=Gashing Blade|75
DPS3=Vicious Bite of Chaos|85
DPS4=Encroaching Darkness|45
DPS5=Spear of Grelleth|90
DPS6=Touch of Klonda|80
DPS7=Steadfast Stance|95|Me
DPS8=Ralstok's Bite|65
DPS9=Blood of Ralstok|92
DPS10=Banestrike|98

[Pull]
PullWith=Terror of Poira
;PullWith=Demand for Power
MaxRadius=500
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=0

depending on the zone i swap out Terror of Poira for Demand for power

Dutch_SK · Mar 24, 2014

I already tried pulling with everything, it doesn't seem to be helping.

Every once in a while the mob goes straight for the cleric, even when sk pulls with full health.

Sk just stands there while the mob is pounding my cleric. If I move him a bit closer manually he engages, that's why I thought to set the radius a bit higher.

Mordail · Mar 25, 2014

Dutch, try setting someone else to be your puller and have your tank peel off them. I've set up my group like this to force my tank to assist at 100% and it's working. It's not optimal because I'd like my Sk to have pull agro, but I get to xp without the fuss.

Perhaps this can help in the meantime.

Dutch_SK · Mar 25, 2014

Mordail, that's definitely going to be plan B.

Gonna try out the campradius=50 and if that's not working I am gonna set my ENC to pull =)

Infinite Monkeys · Mar 25, 2014

Are you using voice of thule? Also did you have a mask with hate mod on it? Those 2 and pull with demand and you shouldn't have any trouble.

Dutch_SK · Mar 25, 2014

Yup I have all of those.

Maskoi · Mar 25, 2014

Park your cleric right next to the SK will solve this.

Dutch_SK · Mar 25, 2014

Yeah I did and changed radius to 50, so far so good.

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