Question - Need help from a elder shaman KA player heal/debuff/buff wrt Beserker

[shu]

Version of KissAssist.mac?

11.005

When did your problem start?

Not a problem it is a question.

Character Role?

1. Assist

What class is having this issue?

1. Shaman

How often does this issue occur?

Always

The beserker drains his HP to do more dmg but there is no way in my KA file to detect that. Any non tank class needs heals immediately because they can die so quickly. As a shaman healer/debuffer/buffer I need to cast malo/'slow on all mobs and hopefully complete that task before anyone needs a heal otherwise the tank dies because one or more mobs does not have slow. I hope someone will respond. TIA

 

[achilise]

Heals10=Reckless Renewal|80|MA
Heals11=Reckless Rejuvenation|85|MA
Heals12=Reckless Regeneration|90|MA
Heals13=Reckless Renewal|70
Heals14=Reckless Rejuvenation|70
Heals15=Reckless Regeneration|75
Heals16=Union of Spirits|75|MA
Heals17=Frenzied Growth|99|MA

set heals to non MA lower than 78. this will stop spamming zerkers heals. this is my shamans INI heal section for MA/NONMA, hope it helps.

 

[shu]

Thank you achilise for responding. Here is my heal section. I was giving a much higher HP% to non tank because they die so quickly but if
my only option is to use 77% or lower I will do so.

I see you start casting heals/regen on the MA at 99,90,85,80,75,70 do you have a tank that does not lose HP quickly? Otherwise how do
you have time to cast malo/slow on multiple mobs before you cast Frenzied Growth at 99% ?

I don't heal the tank until 55% HP there is a healer merc in the group and I want as much time as possible to complete the malo/slow task. Without a slow
on every mob at 92 when you are pulling mobs many levels above you the group can die quickly.

Heals1=Gotikan's Recourse|77|!MA|Cond3
Heals2=Reckless Mending|76|!MA
Heals3=Qirik's Mending|75|!MA

Heals4=Union of Spirits|55|MA
Heals5=Gotikan's Recourse|54|MA|Cond3
Heals6=Reckless Mending|53|MA
Heals7=Qirik's Mending|52|MA

Heals8=Soothsayer's Intervention|78
Heals9=Ascendant's Intervention|78
Heals10=Penumbra of Renewal|77

 

[Sic]

Thank you achilise for responding. Here is my heal section. I was giving a much higher HP% to non tank because they die so quickly but if
my only option is to use 77% or lower I will do so.

I see you start casting heals/regen on the MA at 99,90,85,80,75,70 do you have a tank that does not lose HP quickly? Otherwise how do
you have time to cast malo/slow on multiple mobs before you cast Frenzied Growth at 99% ?

I don't heal the tank until 55% HP there is a healer merc in the group and I want as much time as possible to complete the malo/slow task. Without a slow
on every mob at 92 when you are pulling mobs many levels above you the group can die quickly.

Heals1=Gotikan's Recourse|77|!MA|Cond3
Heals2=Reckless Mending|76|!MA
Heals3=Qirik's Mending|75|!MA

Heals4=Union of Spirits|55|MA
Heals5=Gotikan's Recourse|54|MA|Cond3
Heals6=Reckless Mending|53|MA
Heals7=Qirik's Mending|52|MA

Heals8=Soothsayer's Intervention|78
Heals9=Ascendant's Intervention|78
Heals10=Penumbra of Renewal|77

with appropriate gear/aa a zerker will be at 89% health with their health limiters. i usually do 85 for non ma

your heal values are a bit sketch, imo

 

[achilise]

if using a healer merc please make sure to add the promised line of heals to blocked buffs so its not used. as far as the slow I really don't worry about it to much I am more reliant on his belt to proc slow unless its a named then maybe but usually not. without knowing your group make up/level/gear/aa it is hard to base when to heal but i have always been one to over heal than to min/max heal spells. with squall line it usually keeps dps classes topped off to there limit so i set heals slightly lower just in case they take a smack to the head

what is killing your non MA classes? unless they are dying to DD or AE's they really shouldn't be taking damage all that much.

as far as my group they are all max aa/level in t3 gear. i usually camp tower with warrior pulling. and little to no group damage unless its an unlucky smack before zerkers/bard get behind mobs

 

[achilise]

chatswiththisname along with sic have released mq2shaman. its in beta right now so no need to purchase it yet. when fully released its a 20 dollar a year plugin that will save you a lot of aggravation that comes with INI set up. I am not saying one is better than the other ( I have m preferences) but that's up for debate and not the topic.
if you look at Sic's header he has quick links to all the class plugins and videos, take a look and give it a try.

 

[shu]

I went back to this thread because I was treating Gotikan's Recourse as if it was not group. Yes I know Sic I used to refer to him as Nihil.
My son is using 2 of his plugins war and zerker and is waiting on him to release mq2bard so he can mez multiple mobs. I did not see any DPS
improvement with our zerker using that plugin the zerker still can't top the DPS of my fine tuned mage but maybe that is the way it is.

I thank all of you for your responses. Now I must visit my friend Google to know what you are talking about.

My son and I are 92 and we use 92 gear. He plays the war/brd/ber and I play the shm/mag with a healer merc. Last Sunday we were 90 to begin
and pulled a 98 named mob and yes malo/slow stuck and we killed the wimpy mob that only used knockback.

I don't know what a health limiter on a zerker is. Perhaps you can't use that at 92 but I will pass that info on to my son. Perhaps it is a parm in Sic's zerker plugin
that my son uses.

I also don't know what a squall line is but I will quickly know. Same is true with the promised line of heals.

To my son and I level 115 raid T3 gear is so far in the future we don't even think about it.

Here is the numbers I will go with this Sunday. It all depends how quickly my son with his 90/92 gear loses HP.

Heals1=Reckless Mending|76|!MA
Heals2=Qirik's Mending|75|!MA

Heals3=Gotikan's Recourse|61|Cond3
Heals4=Union of Spirits|60|MA
Heals5=Reckless Mending|59|MA
Heals6=Qirik's Mending|58|MA

Heals7=Soothsayer's Intervention|78
Heals8=Ascendant's Intervention|78
Heals9=Penumbra of Renewal|77

 

[Sic]

Q. What is the deal with limited health?
A. Zerkers have a bunch of abilities that require them to be injured to use.
once you get lvl/aa/abilities that value will end up being 89% health
open wound maxes at 117k hp or 89% whichever is lower
ritual scarification maxes at 326k or 89% whichever is lower