Problem - KA 12 Bard AE Mez at 85 question.

[Shadow]

Version of KissAssist.mac?

12.002

When did your problem start?

Today

Character Role?

1. Assist

What class is having this issue?

1. Bard

How often does this issue occur?

Always

Can you reproduce the issue?

Yes. Everytime I pull a pack, it does the same thing.

At 85 my bard has an issue with Wave of Slumber. The other mobs are not dying that fast to have number counts go down as I turned off all attacking on 3 different sets of 4 mobs to see what was going on. He starts a single mez, interrupts, starts an ae, and starts a single again right after. He does this on every pull where the AE Mez condition is met and still active. I cannot figure out why and where I probably screwed something up. Any thoughts?

[Spells]
MiscGem=12
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
LoadSpellSet=1
SpellSetName=KA
CastingInterruptOn=1
CheckStuckGem=1
Gem1=Talendor's Chant of Flame
Gem2=Cantana of Rodcet
Gem3=Dirge of the Fallen Rathe
Gem4=Dance of the Dragorn
Gem5=War March of Brekt
Gem6=Selo's Accelerating Chorus
Gem7=Aria of the Poet
Gem8=Slumber of the Mindshear
Gem9=Wave of Slumber
Gem10=Storm Blade
Gem11=Selo's Song of Travel
Gem12=Aura of the Poet

[Mez]
MezOn=1
MezRadius=35
MezMinLevel=1
MezMaxLevel=88
MezStopHPs=90
MezSpell=Slumber of the Mindshear
MezAESpell=Wave of Slumber|2
MezDebuffOnResist=0
MezDebuffSpell=Your Debuff Spell

 

[Kuhle]

You're aemez should be 3, not 2.

 

[Shadow]

Didn't work at 3 either. Didn't work at 4. Didn't work at 5. Same result.

 

[Kuhle]

Didn't work at 3 either. Didn't work at 4. Didn't work at 5. Same result.

I am not 100% sure how ka works for mezzing, but it doesn't sound like such a bad thing. It probably starts with single mez because it initially meets that 2 targets within 35 radius. Then when a third target enters that radius, it stops the single and does the aemez. Last I remember, and I could be wrong, but the ae mez is very short duration. So while they are mezzed from the ae, it goes through and re mezzed them with the longer single mez.

It's a guess, and may or may not be what actually happens.

 

[Shadow]

Well, I went back to RGmercs, it does at least attempt an AE Mez and occasionally will get one off, but it takes a long time before it decides on the MezCount. I had to adjust offhealer from MT at 80 health to 95 to get through one section that is a 4-5 pull yellow/red conns with Bard Lull. Had same issue in same instance on main group with Lulls and Split pulling. If those mobs came close and mez wasn't going off immediately, I struggled. Main group got through because cleric/shm. 2nd group is shm/bst and can get rough. KA is faster on mez attempt, just has the issue above. I'll do more testing and post a better log.

The good news: I am redoing the entire mesh for all of the Deadhills. Too many places I had to fix in my last go around, and it was piecemeal. This time I cleared all out and making my own from scratch. One area kills me, and I need to tweak some. But overall it is pathing really well.

 

[Kuhle]

Btw, if your wanting to load the spells listed in the spellset, you need to change it to 2. 1 loads the spells from a saved spell set called ka if you have it

LoadSpellSet=2

 

[Shadow]

Btw, if your wanting to load the spells listed in the spellset, you need to change it to 2. 1 loads the spells from a saved spell set called ka if you have it

LoadSpellSet=2

I only have one spellset. It's name is KA. I have used this spellset (updated every level I had a song I wanted to use) since the beginning of the Bard and did not have any issues. I appreciate your assistance though, truly.

 

[Xannman]

Your mez radius is pretty small. Maybe increasing it a bit would help (to at least 50)

 

[Shadow]

Your mez radius is pretty small. Maybe increasing it a bit would help (to at least 50)

I might be confused on this one, the spell's radius itself is only 35. https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=19717

I guess it would at least attempt and possibly continue the song cast with a higher radius?

 

[ctaylor22]

Kiss is setup to be Mez heavy. The mez routine checks the number of mobs in MezRadius Range, and if there are 2 or more, the single target mez is started. If at any time, while casting single target mez, the number of mobs reaches or exceeds MezAECount then the single mez is interrupted and the AE mez is cast. There is a 30 second timer set set for Bard AE Mez. Then once the AE Mez is cast the bard will return to single target mezzing to nail down all the targets with single target mez.

Just because the AE mez was cast does not mean all the mobs in range were mezzed, the only way to guarantee that all adds are mezed is to cast a single target mez on all adds. If you don't want the bard to use AE mezzing just set MezOn=2 or if you want only AE Mezzing then set MezOn=3

 

[Xannman]

I might be confused on this one, the spell's radius itself is only 35. https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=19717

I guess it would at least attempt and possibly continue the song cast with a higher radius?

Correct. As ctaylor said, Mez radius is the radius that KA will use to check for adds that need to be mezzed, even using the single target mez. Bigger radius=bard starts casting mez sooner. If mez radius is roughly equal to camp radius, then the adds are going to be beating on your tank before the bard even starts casting mez.

Also, 35 is the range for the AE spell, but with focus it increases a lot (mine says 35 as well, but with focus is 126)

 

[Shadow]

Thanks guys! Will check it out and report back.