Problem - Bard Mez inefficiency

[Lucent]

Bard Single Target Mez - Lasts 18 seconds
Bard AOE Mez - Lasts 30 seconds

Pulling 3 mobs into camp, bard will rightfully use AOE mez first instead of single to make them all go to sleep as quickly as possible.

Then instead of fighting, the bard wastes time (and mez time) by remezzing them all with single target mezes that only last 18 seconds, despite having 30 seconds of mez remaining on them from the aoe mez.

Can this behavior be modified? A check on the mobs current buffs/debuffs to see if there is a mez effect with more than 6s left or whatever time is left for a normal remez? Bards may not be giant dps, but the group as a whole loses a lot without the bard singing because its wasting so much time on multipulls with unneeded mezzing.

I'm sorry, I know i keep posting things, but they're real issues I swear it lol. Just trying to do my part to help

EDIT: That said, overzealous mezzing is better than no mezzing!

 

[Maskoi]

#1 Its a bard so there is no such thing as over mezzing. What you described is exactly how kiss bard mezzing works.
#2

MezOn=0/1/2/3 0=Off/1=Single & AE Mez/2=Single Mez only/3=AE Mez only. (Default 0)

 

[Lucent]

Yes I know how to turn on single, ae and single, or just ae. I understand that its how kiss is working, I am simply saying its innefficient with such short mez effects, and the bard will waste time remezzing mobs with a shorter single target mez after using a long duration AOE mez, for no good reason, literally all it does is reduce the time they're mezzed and make the bard have to stop again sooner to remezz. The chance to memblur with a single target doesn't really matter because once I pull them, I intend the boxes to keeeel them

I'm fairly sure its tracking some sort of mez timer for the AE and the single target application of mez separately. It's not ultra pressing, just something I noticed. But if you can include a check before single target mez that goes "this mob doesn't have mez, but what about AE mez with over, say 12 seconds, of time left"

This would not only allow the bard more chance to pretend dps, but get extra time of the buff twist going to buff the real damage dealers, and more importantly, if an add comes, the bard will be free to mez it sooner versus remezzing other stuff first.

 

[Maskoi]

Here's the deal. Bard single mez lasts 18 secs. its has a casting time of 3 secs so in reality it only last 15 secs. 3 mobs = 3 casts or 9 secs of singing to lock them down in order. 1 resist since bards don't debuff and then 15 secs on a mob becomes 12sec etc.

AE Mez = Lock down all targets 30 secs hopefully no resists. Start single mez rinse repeat.

The bard has no time to start any kind of significant twist while trying to mez multiple mobs and bards can't do any kind of Significant Melee DPS whiling mezzing either.

<---has played a Bard for 14 years.

One of the reasons I actually wrote Kiss was because no macro handles bards. The Mez was the 2nd thing I wrote in Kiss. I wrote it to copy the way I mez mobs on my bard while playing as I have tried to do a lot in Kiss to emulate actual game play behavior. Also the Kiss factor = Keep it simple stupid. Lock down mobs with ae mez start single mez, simple. Kiss was never meant to be a Min Max type of Macro.

I have commented the macro heavily so people can hack it where they want to. Sorry but no plans to change bard mez.

 

[calaxa]

Remember Maskoi has to make the macro for the most general cases. If you want efficiency, you will have to modify KA to suit your tastes or make custom macs. I hate if I have chanter and bard in grp, they remez each other's mobs but I'm too lazy to go and make my own custom macs for this.

 

[Maskoi]

on the bard create a hot key

/mezon 0

That will turn mez off on the bard

/mezon 1

to turn it back on

 

[calaxa]

Thanks Maskoi but it's a little more complicated than that for the scenarios I'm running....I'll explain in PM and maybe you can give me ideas.

 

[Maskoi]

If you need 2 mezzers in a group then is probably to complicated for Kiss lol. PM me though to see if I can help with anything.

 

[Lucent]

two mezzers needed.. must be some hardcore pulls! haha

 

[TreeHuginDruid]

Based upon review of the posts to this problem ticket, I am unable to determine with 100% acuracy if the issue is resolved for the user or not.. lol

It appears that the initial information Maskoi provided on mez single/ae via bards covered the question of why bard time is slower for locing multiple mobs... but no final confirmation or direct reply to this answering/fixing their issue was made.

In all reality i consider it resolved because it was really a n informational issue that was provided... but have to be sure.

Awaiting any response from Lucent to indicate if he/she is satisfied/wishes ticket closed.

 

[TreeHuginDruid]

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