Problem - Kissassist - 1 toon burns all mana and 1 wont assist

[Trigun]

Hey folks -- so i have recently returned, yet again to EQ. I updated RG/Macroquest and somehow my saved profiles vanished. No big deal - i decided to do 3 new toons on another server and got things set up. These toons are only level 19 right now, but ever since about level 10, my Druid will burn all mana on buffs and fighting and will constantly only have about 20% mana unless i'm in POK, where she finally gets to full mana. My Wizard will not assist at all but will target the mobs and even face them or move near them when engaged. I'm using very basic .ini (basic=low level). I havent modified them and i have all the spells referenced -- any idea what i'm doing wrong? My 3rd toon is a warrior and she works just fine using similar .ini for level 15 warrior.


Wizard .ini: https://www.redguides.com/community/resources/lvl-15-wiz-ini-w-o-conditions-for-ka11.933/
Druid .ini: https://www.redguides.com/community/resources/lvl-15-dru-ini-w-o-conditions-for-ka11.1346/

 

[nuggy]

make sure that the druids not trying to cast over a buff thats bigger then his or unstackable ,,, you can always use the byos and remove the ones that keep recasting , just my 2 cents,, and b sure to set the roles to your main tank and assist

 

[Tangtown]

Hey folks -- so i have recently returned, yet again to EQ. I updated RG/Macroquest and somehow my saved profiles vanished. No big deal - i decided to do 3 new toons on another server and got things set up. These toons are only level 19 right now, but ever since about level 10, my Druid will burn all mana on buffs and fighting and will constantly only have about 20% mana unless i'm in POK, where she finally gets to full mana. My Wizard will not assist at all but will target the mobs and even face them or move near them when engaged. I'm using very basic .ini (basic=low level). I havent modified them and i have all the spells referenced -- any idea what i'm doing wrong? My 3rd toon is a warrior and she works just fine using similar .ini for level 15 warrior.


Wizard .ini: https://www.redguides.com/community/resources/lvl-15-wiz-ini-w-o-conditions-for-ka11.933/
Druid .ini: https://www.redguides.com/community/resources/lvl-15-dru-ini-w-o-conditions-for-ka11.1346/

Can you post copies of your actual ini here. The resource inis you linked don't include general and melee which could have the issues.

 

[Trigun]

Can you post copies of your actual ini here. The resource inis you linked don't include general and melee which could have the issues.

[General]
KissAssistVer=12.002
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedStop=100
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
CorpseRecoveryOn=0
EQBCOn=0
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Wizard|18|SILVER
DefaultUI=TRUE
GroupEscapeOn=0
DPSMeter=0
ScatterOn=0
LOSBeforeCombat=0
XTSlot=1
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=5
Buffs1=Shielding
Buffs2=O`Keil's Embers|ma
Buffs3=Shieldskin
;Need a cat's eye agate to cast Shieldskin
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
PowerSource=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=1
AESize=3
AERadius=50
AE1=Project Lightning|2|mob
AE2=Pillar of Fire|3|mob
AE3=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSize=5
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Flame Shock|60
DebuffAllOn=0
DPS2=NULL
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
[Burn]
BurnSize=3
BurnAllNamed=0
UseTribute=0
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
[GoM]
GoMSize=3
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell1=NULL
GoMSpell2=NULL
GoMSpell3=NULL
[KConditions]
ConOn=0
CondSize=5
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=TRUE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE
[SpellS]
MiscGem=8
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
LoadSpellSet=1
SpellSetName=KissAssist
CastingInterruptOn=1
CheckStuckGem=1
Gem1=Flame Shock
Gem2=Fire Bolt
Gem3=Pillar of Fire
Gem4=Project Lightning
Gem5=Shielding
Gem6=Shieldskin
Gem7=Gate
Gem8=O`Keil's Embers
Gem9=NULL
Gem10=NULL
Gem11=NULL
Gem12=NULL
Gem13=NULL
[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=0
PetTauntOverride=0
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
HealInterval=0
AutoRezOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
RezMeLast=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
PullOnReturn=0
[PullAdvanced]
PullLocsOn=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[KissError]
LastCMD:=/endmacro
ErrorDateTime:=10/07/2022 02:37:47
ErrorMsg:=DoCommand - Couldn't parse '/highlight reset'
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=37464315
BuildDate:=20221004
CurrentUI:=Default

[General]
KissAssistVer=12.002
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedStop=100
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
CorpseRecoveryOn=0
EQBCOn=0
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Druid|18|FREE
DefaultUI=TRUE
GroupEscapeOn=0
DPSMeter=0
ScatterOn=0
LOSBeforeCombat=0
XTSlot=1
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=5
Buffs1=Skin Like Rock
Buffs2=Firefist
Buffs3=Thistlecoat
Buffs4=Spirit of Wolf
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
Buffs5=NULL
PowerSource=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=1
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=Cascade of Hail|4
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSize=4
DPSSkip=5
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Ignite|95|Once
DPS2=Stinging Swarm|85
DPS3=Snare|30
DebuffAllOn=0
DPS4=NULL
[Heals]
HealsOn=1
HealsSize=2
Heals1=Light Healing|50
AutoRezOn=0
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealInterval=0
Heals2=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
RezMeLast=0
[Burn]
BurnSize=1
BurnAllNamed=0
UseTribute=0
Burn1=NULL
[GoM]
GoMSize=1
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell1=NULL
[KConditions]
ConOn=0
CondSize=5
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=FALSE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE
[Spells]
Gem1=Ignite
Gem2=Light Healing
Gem3=Stinging Swarm
Gem4=Thistlecoat
Gem5=Spirit of Wolf
Gem6=Cascade of Hail
Gem7=Snare
Gem8=Firefist
Gem9=NULL
Gem10=NULL
Gem11=NULL
Gem12=NULL
Gem13=NULL
MiscGem=8
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
CastingInterruptOn=1
CheckStuckGem=1
[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=0
PetTauntOverride=0
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Pet]
PetOn=0
PetSpell=YourPetSpell
PetFocus=NULL
PetShrinkOn=0
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=0
PetBuffsSize=8
PetBuffs1=NULL
PetBuffs2=NULL
PetBuffs3=NULL
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetCombatOn=1
PetAssistAt=95
PetAttackDistance=115
PetToysSize=6
PetBreakMezSpell=NULL
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
MoveWhenHit=0
PetHoldOn=1
PetForceHealOnMed=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
PullOnReturn=0
[PullAdvanced]
PullLocsOn=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[KissError]
LastCMD:=/endmacro
ErrorDateTime:=10/07/2022 02:34:23
ErrorMsg:=NULL
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=32997113
BuildDate:=20221004
CurrentUI:=Default

Hopefully this is what you needed. Top one is the wiz and bottom is the druid.

 

[Tangtown]

Hopefully this is what you needed. Top one is the wiz and bottom is the druid.

Your melee distance is set to 75, this is the distance you engage at so if your toons are outside of 75 they will not assist. Also you have EQBC=0 and Dannet=0 in both instances, this wouldn't cause an issue with assisting but it means your toons won't be communicating with each other for buffs etc. If you are using EQBC just switch it to =1.

Edit: forgot to address the medding. You have med start at 20%, switch that to 80% or so and your toons will med out of combat. I set my caster melee distance to 250, give that a try.

 

[Trigun]

Your melee distance is set to 75, this is the distance you engage at so if your toons are outside of 75 they will not assist. Also you have EQBC=0 and Dannet=0 in both instances, this wouldn't cause an issue with assisting but it means your toons won't be communicating with each other for buffs etc. If you are using EQBC just switch it to =1.

Edit: forgot to address the medding. You have med start at 20%, switch that to 80% or so and your toons will med out of combat. I set my caster melee distance to 250, give that a try.

Thanks. So i'm doing all this in real-time as i'm currently playing. I updated med value and eqbc per your recommendation. For the Wizard, i was able to just resolve her issue by using /memmyspells command which updated the spell gems and she started blasting away (even though many of those spells were memmed already). My Druid right now still seems to be blowing mana re-casting Skin like stone at every meditate attempt out of combat.

 

[Tangtown]

The skin like rock I would assume has something to do with EQBC. Do you have an EQBC server running? right click the mq icon in your system tray and select start EQBC server and make sure everyone is connected. The command to connect is /bccmd connect, do that on all your toons if you are unsure.

As I hit reply I just realized it might be a buff overwrite issue as well. If you have a toon that has a buff that doesn't stack with skin the druid will keep casting it forever trying to get it to land. In that case if it's a buff you will always have you can put a condition in to not cast skin if they have the other buff on.

 

[Trigun]

Got you -- seems like my Healer merc is buffing us and druid is trying to do the same but druid buffs wont overwrite cleric buffs. I will work on the condition -- really appreciate the help with this!!

 

[Tangtown]

Got you -- seems like my Healer merc is buffing us and druid is trying to do the same but druid buffs wont overwrite cleric buffs. I will work on the condition -- really appreciate the help with this!!

For casters generally it's more beneficial to have the Druid skin and Cleric AC buff in lieu of the Cleric Symbol line. For how fast you'll level it's probably not worth messing with as you'll spend more time blocking buffs but a simple solution is to block the cleric buffs in EQ and they won't hit you with the symbol only the AC and the druid spell will land.

This type of condition will work to not cast if they have a higher level buff or one that won't stack.

Cond1=!${Target.Buff[name of spell that is overwrites skin].ID}

 

[Trigun]

For casters generally it's more beneficial to have the Druid skin and Cleric AC buff in lieu of the Cleric Symbol line. For how fast you'll level it's probably not worth messing with as you'll spend more time blocking buffs but a simple solution is to block the cleric buffs in EQ and they won't hit you with the symbol only the AC and the druid spell will land.

This type of condition will work to not cast if they have a higher level buff or one that won't stack.

Cond1=!${Target.Buff[name of spell that is overwrites skin].ID}

Awesome, thanks again for the help. This wasn't frustrating, as i was able to toggle between toons for casting and stuff and never got in trouble because of being OOM for the druid, but i'm glad it's a pretty simple solution. This forum is great resource and the members here are THE BEST!!

 

[Trigun]

Update: Looks like EQBC running fixed the druid burning her mana up. She's now buffing as she should, when she should and not trying to compete with cleric buffs. Definitely speeding up the leveling process a bit since i'm not tabbing between toons.