Question - Finding KA syntax info

[BobtheBunny]

Version of KissAssist.mac?

12.002

When did your problem start?

ongoing

Character Role?

1. Assist

What class is having this issue?

1. Magician

How often does this issue occur?

Often

I'm having trouble locating documentation or information on syntax and how to code certain things in my .ini files. Things like Me.PctMana and arget.Buff[Blessing of Fervor].ID
I've found some posts and guides for KA, conditions, and for general info. I'm looking for specifics like when I know I want to check the target to see if its in combat. I want to do something like:
Cond4=${Target.CombatState.Equal[InCombat]} or Target.Attacking
It would be helpful to know what the correct variables or states are. Is there a resource for that documentation?

 

[Naturesong]

I'm having trouble locating documentation or information on syntax and how to code certain things in my .ini files. Things like Me.PctMana and arget.Buff[Blessing of Fervor].ID
I've found some posts and guides for KA, conditions, and for general info. I'm looking for specifics like when I know I want to check the target to see if its in combat. I want to do something like:
Cond4=${Target.CombatState.Equal[InCombat]} or Target.Attacking
It would be helpful to know what the correct variables or states are. Is there a resource for that documentation?

Start here: https://www.redguides.com/community/resources/conditions-and-you-coding-tutorial-information.219/

And then here: https://docs.macroquest.org/reference/top-level-objects/

And always: https://www.redguides.com/docs/projects/kissassist/

 

[Robban]

I'm having trouble locating documentation or information on syntax and how to code certain things in my .ini files. Things like Me.PctMana and arget.Buff[Blessing of Fervor].ID
I've found some posts and guides for KA, conditions, and for general info. I'm looking for specifics like when I know I want to check the target to see if its in combat. I want to do something like:
Cond4=${Target.CombatState.Equal[InCombat]} or Target.Attacking
It would be helpful to know what the correct variables or states are. Is there a resource for that documentation?

I usually went to the ini library and looked how others had coded their ini's. Lotsa nice ideas there too.

 

[BobtheBunny]

Start here: https://www.redguides.com/community/resources/conditions-and-you-coding-tutorial-information.219/

And then here: https://docs.macroquest.org/reference/top-level-objects/

And always: https://www.redguides.com/docs/projects/kissassist/

Thank you so much for this!
I totally missed the top-level-objects link. That's exactly what I needed. The conditions and you has more pseudo code and theory, which is great, but I needed the actual variable names that are used, and its all in the TLO wiki.
including:
/if ${Me.CombatState.Equal[ACTIVE]} /echo I can now sit and regen fast

@Robban I was also searching ini file examples and stealing code from them, but it doesn't always work, and I spend hours tweaking it and finding other examples.

 

[Naturesong]

Thank you so much for this!
I totally missed the top-level-objects link. That's exactly what I needed. The conditions and you has more pseudo code and theory, which is great, but I needed the actual variable names that are used, and its all in the TLO wiki.
including:
/if ${Me.CombatState.Equal[ACTIVE]} /echo I can now sit and regen fast

@Robban I was also searching ini file examples and stealing code from them, but it doesn't always work, and I spend hours tweaking it and finding other examples.

The ini's can be useful, but some are out of date, or there are errors. I know there have been typos and mistakes in ones that I've posted that I didn't pick up when testing.
If you do see an error in a reasonably up to date ini, please post in the discussion area of that ini, and the author, if still active online, will come and fix it.
My main use for published ini's has been to trawl for ideas, and then write my own implementation, particularly for classes that I'm less familiar with.

 

[manydills]

The ini's can be useful, but some are out of date, or there are errors.

Absolutely. Some of them are years old and represent the barest minimum of effort. (Looking at you, Almar.) In general, if you see an .ini with something like:
Buffs2=NULL Buffs3=NULL Buffs4=NULL
and so forth, pass on it. That .ini wasn't created with care.

I agree with previous posters that having https://docs.macroquest.org/reference/data-types/ and https://www.redguides.com/community/resources/categories/kissassist-ini-library.18/ bookmarked can be super helpful. Naturesong, Sic, and ctaylor22 have all been super helpful to me in the past when trying to figure out my own issues.

 

[Naturesong]

Absolutely. Some of them are years old and represent the barest minimum of effort. (Looking at you, Almar.) In general, if you see an .ini with something like:
Buffs2=NULL Buffs3=NULL Buffs4=NULL
and so forth, pass on it. That .ini wasn't created with care.

I agree with previous posters that having https://docs.macroquest.org/reference/data-types/ and https://www.redguides.com/community/resources/categories/kissassist-ini-library.18/ bookmarked can be super helpful. Naturesong, Sic, and ctaylor22 have all been super helpful to me in the past when trying to figure out my own issues.

I'm a fan of Almars ini's.
In fact any of the ini's which are simple and uncomplicated.
They cover all the classes and give a representation of basic play via spells and abilities. And no conditions.
For classes that I was unfamiliar with, I'd often look at ini's made by Almars, @toadwart and @Sifter228 to check if I'd missed any obvious buff / spell / song.
One of the other tricks I did was when making my cleric ini, run RGMercs and see what buffs and heals it was using. And then decide if I agreed with the choices the authors of that macro made.
My ones tend to be a lot more complicated, which means more moving parts, more points of failure etc.

 

[manydills]

I'm a fan of Almars ini's.
In fact any of the ini's which are simple and uncomplicated.
They cover all the classes and give a representation of basic play via spells and abilities. And no conditions.
For classes that I was unfamiliar with, I'd often look at ini's made by Almars, @toadwart and @Sifter228 to check if I'd missed any obvious buff / spell / song.
One of the other tricks I did was when making my cleric ini, run RGMercs and see what buffs and heals it was using. And then decide if I agreed with the choices the authors of that macro made.
My ones tend to be a lot more complicated, which means more moving parts, more points of failure etc.

That's absolutely fair. I like the RGMercs trick! Just a quick way to see "hmm, what do people more familiar with the class think is good?"

I think we just have a difference of opinion about Almar's - I don't love the condition-free .inis, just because to me that's ignoring one of the best things about KA that makes it worth using. (But I don't use KA to pull, so there are probably plenty of people who'd say the same about me. C'est la vie.)