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Question - Shaman question regarding twincast and KA

Joined
Apr 3, 2019
RedCents
571¢
So I've been having some issues keeping my tank alive in TBL, due to him still sucking hard, but slowly improving.

One thing I've found is this:
Frostbitten Gift

It's a spell that when you DD the named, it's supposed to give you a healing twincast.

question 1. Does that mean I can cast a wave heal, Eyrzekla's Recourse, or the AE heal, and it will do it twice automatically?

question 2. If so, does it mean you get 2 instant waves? so the whole group gets a double heal instantly then double wave heals (2 x heal per tick)?

question 3. If not, does it at least remove the re-use timer so I can cast a heal twice straight away?

question 4. Am I just really, really confused and not understanding anything?

Since my shaman is only a healer at this point, this could help. Cast the Frostbitten Gift on the tank, then blast either the recourse heal on the tank or the ae heal on the group.

question 5. How would you put this into a KA ini? Has anyone ever actually done it?

If not, I'll work on it when I'm not on a coffee break at work and try it. My shaman never gets low on mana, so it's not like mana is an issue. I want to overheal like a crazy person.





Edit: You don't DD the named, you cast it on the tank and it hit's the tank's target. I got that wrong.

tl;dr: What's the best way of getting KA to cast a DD **at the MA**, if he's getting damaged, then immediately cast a heal spell on him once or twice, depending on how twincast actually works?
 
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Joined
Jun 18, 2014
RedCents
315¢
The answer to questions 1 and 2 is yes. Questions 3 and 4 , no. I will post my shaman ini when I get off work. Essentially after casting Gift, you want to use Swell and Recourse to get the most from the twincast. Alternatively, after Gift your tank takes significant damage, KA may activate one of your Reckless heals which will Twincast. I have not witnessed any shaman ini that states “when twincast buff is active in the song window, cast Swell and Recourse.” If that is what you are wanting. Swell has the longest cast time of 2.5 seconds but refreshes quickly. Recourse has an almost instant cast time but is very slow at refreshing. Since Swell consists of 3 waves of healing, It aligns very nicely with Gift. However the initial healing wave is not that impressive. My suggestion would be this: “if twincast is active and tank hitponts > 80 cast Swell then cast Recourse. If Recourse is not available cast one of the Reckless lines.” Don’t get me wrong Swell is a great spell but it’s not good when the tank is at 40%. You want to use all 3 Reckless spells and supplement them with Recourse, Swell, Cloud of Renewal and of course Dissident Roar.
 
Joined
Jun 18, 2014
RedCents
315¢
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Joined
Jun 18, 2014
RedCents
315¢
I failed to mention that my Shaman is my main healer in my current experiment group. The group consists of War, Pal, Brd, Shaman and Zerk X 2. Two tanks....I know...I am testing the Paladin in the slot of the cleric to see what I can handle. Doing TBL progression has been fun, with the Pal spot healing and off tanking as needed. VorpalChicken posted a great paladin ini that helped immensely.
 
Joined
Apr 3, 2019
RedCents
571¢
Fantastic. Thanks for this www, I'll for sure try it out when I get home. Missed out on my EQ time last night due to wife/kid complications, but had enough for 1 FF task at least. If all goes well I'll do some serious testing later on.

Much appreciated, and I was thinking of a paladin too, but the 105 i have is a dorf and that won't fly :(. No offence to the hairy chicks out there.
 
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