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Question - Lifetime All Access Membership (1 Viewer)

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Who remembers when EQ let you buy your account a life time All Access membership for 299.99$?

I sure do, who out there would spend that 300 bucks on accounts you have now?

I sure would.
 
I would not. I thought it was a bad deal then and I'd have the same opinion today if they offered it again. There were many signs that pointed towards it being a cash grab, "quick, we need to hit quarterly profit" goals scheme to make them look more attractive to a potential buy-out. Any time something like that is offered, it's never in the consumer's best interest. There is always an ulterior motive behind it. They needed a big haul of cash at that specific point in time, for some reason or another that we may never know for certain. And you can't trust that they won't pull the plug on the game, or you personally lose interest in the game before you see the deal pan out.
 
I would not. I thought it was a bad deal then and I'd have the same opinion today if they offered it again. There were many signs that pointed towards it being a cash grab, "quick, we need to hit quarterly profit" goals scheme to make them look more attractive to a potential buy-out. Any time something like that is offered, it's never in the consumer's best interest. There is always an ulterior motive behind it. They needed a big haul of cash at that specific point in time, for some reason or another that we may never know for certain. And you can't trust that they won't pull the plug on the game, or you personally lose interest in the game before you see the deal pan out.
Or even worse, take a permanent vacation at their discretion
 
It has to have been a terrible business idea for them right? Shut off revenue from your most loyal and richest customers.

I suppose with dbc cash shop items and now perks they have alternative revenue from these people. Lets face it, it was a great deal for players... if you had the cash...

I remember thinking about it but basically I didn't have the spare cash and in the back of my head definetly thought it signalled the death knell of the game, but here we are many many years later.
 
Wow. Never thought about that but from DBs point of view, catching those accounts violating terms would probably be number one priority.

Makes me feel a little better about missing the opportunity, but just a little.
It's not. There is no check on suspensions with regard to any payment (just like spending more money in the store doesn't make it less likely for you to get suspended).
 
It's not. There is no check on suspensions with regard to any payment (just like spending more money in the store doesn't make it less likely for you to get suspended).
I feel like as a business they would certainly tier their enforcement… are there any details on why it wouldn’t be like that?

I feel like tiering would be FTP accounts and lifetime subscription would be top priority.
 
Counterpoint though: anyone who did it has likely paid less in subscription fees than you have.
Free to play @Knightly. Bots make plat, plat buys Krono, Kronos make more baby bot alts.

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I feel like as a business they would certainly tier their enforcement… are there any details on why it wouldn’t be like that?

I feel like tiering would be FTP accounts and lifetime subscription would be top priority.
Because the group that handles enforcing that has no idea what levels your account is or your billing information. But why would it be like that? The intent of enforcing the rules is to keep the game fair to everyone. An unfair game doesn't attract players. Allowing people who pay more to get away with more is likely to impact business in other ways as well, since game actions have a ripple effect. Their system is simple because it doesn't need to be complex. There are not a lot of businesses who do tiered rule enforcement even when they have tiers, it just doesn't make business sense.

It's not worth getting into in this thread, but there is a not insignificant amount of people who don't play the game anymore because they believed the literal thousands of dollars that they spent on the game protected them from rule enforcement and they found out they were wrong.

Free to play @Knightly. Bots make plat, plat buys Krono, Kronos make more baby bot alts.

Everything has a cost. Even if you just counted krono as opportunity cost, the statement holds true.
 
Because the group that handles enforcing that has no idea what levels your account is or your billing information. But why would it be like that? The intent of enforcing the rules is to keep the game fair to everyone. An unfair game doesn't attract players. Allowing people who pay more to get away with more is likely to impact business in other ways as well, since game actions have a ripple effect. Their system is simple because it doesn't need to be complex. There are not a lot of businesses who do tiered rule enforcement even when they have tiers, it just doesn't make business sense.

It's not worth getting into in this thread, but there is a not insignificant amount of people who don't play the game anymore because they believed the literal thousands of dollars that they spent on the game protected them from rule enforcement and they found out they were wrong.



Everything has a cost. Even if you just counted krono as opportunity cost, the statement holds true.
Thanks Knight, your last comment says it all!
 
I didn't even know this was a thing until I read this thread. I must have been taking a break from EQ at that time. I currently play on Project Lazarus which is a free to play server. I got tired of jumping from TLP to TLP. I'm not sure if I would have shelled out the $300 at the time. I would like to say yes but hindsight is always 2020.
 
Out of curiosity, why?

I thought it was a cash grab at the time to pump their valuation for a sale.
Why I didn't worry about them going out of business? Well they had a track record at that point of keeping the game alive for just under 20 years.
When they closed LON they gave advance notice and we all got to cash in on what LON prizes we had that last day.

When they discontinued the ability to use the game on Windows 7 - that would have been the perfect opportunity to close up shop. But they didn't. Notice was a little late on that one.

Someone who works there gets a wild hair every so often and spits out stuff like free Heroics, super bonuses and these lifetimes so I just figured it was that again.

And after all $300 is not a lot anymore. Even the monthly is not a lot. Cheap entertainment. Was great during Covid too. I can easily drop a couple hundred at the Casino when I used to do that.

As for why I would not do it again? If I were younger I would, but as we get older things change.
 
At the time it was offered, I was running 6 accounts full time, so it was more like "do I want to drop $1,800 for lifetime?" Which was WAAAAAYYYY more than I could justify putting into a game in one lump sum. As it is now, I run only 1 gold account off the bank of krono I made from selling chase loot and the rest stay FTP.
 
Sure, but let's say you did it for that one account -- it was last offered on December 31st, 2018 (which was the second time it was offered, so those who bought in on the first round broke even sooner). The very worst possible deal you could have is 4 years, 4 months of time. That's $299.99 for that time period. Versus the annual subscription (for which you'd currently have paid $499.95) or the krono equivalent of 53 kronos (1580 / 30). Both of which are worse deals than the lifetime account since the time it was offered.

Of course, lifetime doesn't make sense if you get banned or quit before your break even (assuming you never come back and continue on the lifetime account to later break even). And it's not like anyone could predict the future.
 
Sure, but let's say you did it for that one account -- it was last offered on December 31st, 2018 (which was the second time it was offered, so those who bought in on the first round broke even sooner). The very worst possible deal you could have is 4 years, 4 months of time. That's $299.99 for that time period. Versus the annual subscription (for which you'd currently have paid $499.95) or the krono equivalent of 53 kronos (1580 / 30). Both of which are worse deals than the lifetime account since the time it was offered.

Of course, lifetime doesn't make sense if you get banned or quit before your break even (assuming you never come back and continue on the lifetime account to later break even). And it's not like anyone could predict the future.
Hmm for some reason I thought the price was $199.99 for the lifetime in 2018?
 
Who remembers when EQ let you buy your account a life time All Access membership for 299.99$?

I sure do, who out there would spend that 300 bucks on accounts you have now?

I sure would.
I missed out and felt bad so purchased the Lotro lifetime when it available ... and just couldnt ever get into the game. i guess if i had redguides for it maybe would be different ;P
 
I have 6 lifetime accounts. I always felt like I was wasting money before, if I paid for a month/s/year and didn't play much. It's nice not worrying about what length subscription to buy, trying to keep a couple accounts silver etc.. Now, when I feel like playing EQ, I have all my accounts ready to go. Just need to buy 6 expansions each year. Best investment ever, for sure, especially if EQ goes on for years. I'm assuming they thought that EQ wouldn't last much longer at the time or were just needing some quick capital for a project? Whatever the reason, it's kept me playing EQ. Not sure I would still be tempted to play, if I had to pay for subs, but it's there for free now. so I can jump back in any time.
 
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