Tech - Lag problems, I'm stuck (1 Viewer)

[nyghteyes]

Can anyone help me with this? I have not been able to get my teams back to a functional steady fps. Had a catastrophic crash and had to re-install everything. It seems to be acting like core parking ...

I have tried it with Isboxer controlling the FPS and with mq2fps controlling it. Never both running at the same time.

I have tried with cpuaffinity at -1 and setting them individually.

It is getting frustrating. Could someone share their 12 or 18 box eqclient.ini so I can rule it out?

-PSA- IF YOU ARE HAVING SIMILAR LAG PROBLEMS KILL THE WINDOWS DEFENDERS SERVICE- I had all the proper exclusion and then some but this thing kept chewing on both my harddrives, with realtime off!

Stopped the service and 2 weeks of frustration is over.

Thanks everyone for the help.

LurkMcGurk, It did feel almost as good killing it as I did this whitetail

 

[LurkMcGurk]

If you're using windows 10 that could be the issue.I was told windows 10 fixed a memory leak that EQ actually uses. Here's what I was told about the Windows 10 and lagging in EQ:

I tried it all. The problem is a security bug that was fixed. EQ
uses the security bug as part of its memory management (one of the
memory leaks in eq). Now windows stops it from happening, so eq cant
use that memory portion. So essentially EQ is limited to about 200
megs of ram. Its swapping in and out is what makes it so slow.

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[TheFiddler]

Lurk, do you happen to know the KB related to "fixing" this memory leak?

 

[nyghteyes]

Windows 7 Ultimate

Thanks for the ini Lurk, will give it a go.

Rc when they refresh

-Update-

Its improved but not cured, it must be related to something windows is doing....

 

[Bami]

I just logged on today and I'm also getting massive lag drops (FPS drops to 1) when I look at buildings. Not sure what changed but its killing me

EDIT: Something in my INI forked up, we good now

 

[LurkMcGurk]

Lurk, do you happen to know the KB related to "fixing" this memory leak?

KB? Sorry I am really bad with acronyms =P

 

[Bami]

KB? Sorry I am really bad with acronyms =P

It's basically the Windows patch number for that patch

 

[LurkMcGurk]

It's basically the Windows patch number for that patch

I emailed my friend to ask him if he knew what the exact number is for the patch. Response:

Im not 100% sure. They started doing the damn cumulative rollup
patches, so you have to really read to find out which one is which. I
just was talking to a microsoft server engineer about it while we were
waiting on a system to reboot. Hes a gamer too :P

If it helps, I know for a fact the patch that gave me insane lag was the one that occurred the night before this post: https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/if-you-have-windows-10-and-are-lagging.235043/

So if you google september 21sts windows 10 patch you may be able to find what you're looking for that way

 

[ctaylor22]

I was having this issue after Windows 10 updated. Make sure your Foreground and Background FPS is set to something acceptable in EQ. What I found in Windows 10 that was killing my system was Windows Defender. I noticed windows Defender was killing my system HD access and slowing everything down. I turned Windows Defender off and everything went back to normal. I just leave it off now when I am playing.

 

[Maskoi]

KB? Sorry I am really bad with acronyms =P

KB in IT(Information Technology) usually means Knowledge Base

 

[nyghteyes]

Well when I come in from hunting I'll kill windows defender. I have everything related in exclusions but if it's pounding on my SSD'S that may explain it. I know the new one was tied in with sp1 and I don't think sp1 can be removed easily.

 

[LurkMcGurk]

Well when I come in from hunting I'll kill windows defender.

This sentence is cool on so many different levels.

After I go kill something physical, I am going to come home and kill something digital.

Watch out for this guy!!!

 

[nyghteyes]

Shot a 9 point this morning (Whitetail) will post a pic here.

Watch the F out windows defender!

 

[eqmule]

Check the size of whatever log file eq logs to mine was a gig or so once and lagged me now I have log off always and log with mq instead when needed

 

[Warl0ck45]

heh, had the same issue before EQMule. I used to make it a point of deleting the log files, but flat stopped using them unless I need em on for GINA.

Would be nice to have a script to click for wiping those out.

 

[LurkMcGurk]

heh, had the same issue before EQMule. I used to make it a point of deleting the log files, but flat stopped using them unless I need em on for GINA.

Would be nice to have a script to click for wiping those out.

GINA will split your log files every week with a setting in the options

I don't think I could play a game without logs. I love when someone says "i never said that!!" then I pull logs from 8months ago when they said that.... ;P

 

[caewen]

My PC was running fine with my 6 box group until tonight when DBG took a select few servers down for short maintenance. I decided to reboot my PC since it has been up and running for awhile. No update occurred from Windows. Now all of sudden each instance is using 10-25% CPU and 1.2gig of memory. It is like they are not registering as being in the back ground. So frustrated as this is what it was doing awhile back before I did a fresh install of Win10. I have tried shutting down windows defender. Exclusions are set for the EQ and MQ folders. I even tried removing the windows update that went through on the 18th that did not seem to have any effect on performance. I cant stop the Win Defender process in Win10 for what ever reason.

 

[nyghteyes]

Check the size of whatever log file eq logs to mine was a gig or so once and lagged me now I have log off always and log with mq instead when needed

Have dbg.txt as read only. Are there others that should be off, other than turning journal off?

I cant stop the Win Defender process in Win10 for what ever reason.

I dont have windows 10 but in 7 I had to

boot in safe mode. > run services.msc > set windows defender it to disabled

 

[Warl0ck45]

My PC was running fine with my 6 box group until tonight when DBG took a select few servers down for short maintenance. I decided to reboot my PC since it has been up and running for awhile. No update occurred from Windows. Now all of sudden each instance is using 10-25% CPU and 1.2gig of memory. It is like they are not registering as being in the back ground. So frustrated as this is what it was doing awhile back before I did a fresh install of Win10. I have tried shutting down windows defender. Exclusions are set for the EQ and MQ folders. I even tried removing the windows update that went through on the 18th that did not seem to have any effect on performance. I cant stop the Win Defender process in Win10 for what ever reason.

actually had the same thing happen here. I got my crew back in and.. woot named is up! I start clearing and 6/12 toons lock up, with task manager showing 15-20% CPU utlization. I killed those tasks and logged them in... to have 3-4 of the other toons lock up (GAH!)

For me, logging out... letting windows 10 do its update, then powering totally off for 30s (doing a cold reboot) seems to have done the trick. Been ingame for 30m or so with no issues.

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Okay after an hour or so, getting a random toon locking up and utlizing 13-20% CPU.

For me this just started occurring after tonight's server maintenance...

Already had Defender off for some time. Will keep poking at the problem some =)

Just posting so ceawen and others know they aint alone =)

 

[caewen]

glad its not just me, but sorry you are having trouble. i am currently reinstalling eq to try that.

Nighteyes I tried the read only, and checked the log file. was less than 300kb's due to no logging on. Also its seems you cant turn off windows defender service in Win10. You can pause protection, add exclusion's etc.

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Reinstall of EQ looks like it may have fixed it. Cpu Usage is back down to 2-5% each instance and memory is maybe a bit high at 1kmeg but still have to adjust some things in settings

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note to self lol, always save character ini files before deleting EQ folder have to rebuild my ui's socials etc

 

[playbetter]

... cant stop the Win Defender process in Win10

Spoiler alert... this is BORING but it works...Also note - I write very linear. This is not meant to offend just to provide clear instructions.

1. press "Windows key+R"
2. type "gpedit.msc" in
3. select "OK"... Policy Group Editor window opens
4. Leftmouse click the arrow to the left of "Administrative Templates" to expand
5. scroll down to "Windows Components" leftmouse click the arrow to the left of it to expand it
6. way down the expanded screen is the "Windows Defender" leftmouse click the words to bring it into the right side of the PGeditor window
7. rightmouse click the "Turn off Windows Defender"
8. select "Edit"
9. Leftmouse click the option button by "Enabled"
10. select "Apply"

YES that is correct... you have to Enable the Disabler...

Oh well. It works.



As always,
Playbetter

 

[caewen]

gpedit only works with pro version but thanks for the info

 

[Warl0ck45]

Just a follow up on my end (incase this helps others)

I don't use MQ2Tooltip so, no issues there.

Still getting random lock ups BUT, I can consistently get an EQ instance freeze up when I am writing to INI. More specifically, when I am adding to my macros ignore list.

#Event AddAlert       	"[MQ2] AddAlert #1#"

Sub Event_AddAlert(line,MobName)
	/if (!(${IgnoreNPCList.Find[${MobName}]})) {
		/alert add 1 ${MobName}
		/varset IgnoreNPCList ${IgnoreNPCList}${MobName}|
		/ini RDCommon.ini IgnoreNPCList ${Zone.ShortName} "${IgnoreNPCList}"
		/call RefreshAlerts
	} else {
		/echo The NPC ( ${MobName} ) is already on the /ignorenpc List
	}
	/return

Sub RefreshAlerts
	/declare i int local
	/call LoadVar IgnoreNPCList ${Zone.ShortName} | IgnoreNPCList RDCommon.ini LOAD string
	/call LoadVar IgnoreNPCList AllZones | IgnoreNPCListCommon RDCommon.ini LOAD string
	/echo ${IgnoreNPCListCommon}
	/alert clear 1
	/declare alertlistlen int local ${Math.Calc[${IgnoreNPCList.Count[|]}-1].Int}
	/declare alertlistlen2 int local ${Math.Calc[${IgnoreNPCListCommon.Count[|]}-1].Int}
	/echo NPC Ignore List for : ${Zone.Name} ( Total NPC: ${alertlistlen} )
	/if (${alertlistlen} > 0) {
		/for i 1 to ${alertlistlen}
			/alert add 1 ${IgnoreNPCList.Arg[${i},|]}
		/next i
	} else {
		/echo No npcs are ignored in ${Zone.Name}, use /ignorenpc <Name> to add NPCs
	}
	/echo NPC Ignore List for : Common ( Total NPC: ${alertlistlen2} )
	/if (${alertlistlen2} > 0) {
		/for i 1 to ${alertlistlen2}
			/alert add 1 ${IgnoreNPCListCommon.Arg[${i},|]}
		/next i
	} else {
		/echo No npcs are ignored in Common, use /ignorenpc <Name> to add NPCs
	}
	/return

Would be the relevant sections. I can consistently add some NPC to the alert list... and if they are not already on it, my EQ instance freezes up. It will add the name to the list, and start to refresh the list, then freeze.

(seems to be more active folks chasing down the problem here, else I would post on the RD folder)

Anyways, in hopes it helps..

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Just to add, quite obviously it was working fine before the patch that started causing these issues (the first question folks always want to ask!)

 

[caewen]

Its incredibly hard to figure out if any of my current issues with stability have anything to do with MQ at all. My server Cazic is so laggy and unstable on the weekends. It pitiful. Everything seems to be working fine for me unless there are server stability issues. I have noticed my instances of EQ lock up and go unresponsive when the server crashes.