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Hi all,

When I am boxing 54, videos played on my 2nd monitor are choppy. I look at my GPU utilization in task manager and see that it is near maxed out at 98%. When i ask others that have a similar set up to mine, they say they dont have that problem and their GPU isn't maxed even without implementing all the below optimizations, so i think theres something wrong, or something i am missing. I have scoured the interwebs trying to find a solution or explanation to no avail. I am hoping one of yall can help!

Ryzen 7 3700x CPU 3.6 ghz, 8 cores (16 cpus)
RTX 2070 SUPER 8 gb VRAM
64 gb RAM
two 27'' monitors, 1920x1080p

I am running 6 toons in one directory with playable settings and the rest of the 54 in another directory with stripped down globalload.txt and eqclient files, including stick figures
I have implemented every optimization strategy in this thread https://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=2988.0

I also run the following EQAffinity script after loading toons in to distribute them among cores. Without that, toons are incredibly laggy.
#change 255 to fit your purpose. 255 spreads across all 8 cores. # to use = 2^N - 1 where N=num cores
powershell "$process=GET-PROCESS eqgame; foreach ($i in $process) {$i.ProcessorAffinity=65535}"

This is my utilization via task manager
1733663270998.png

This shows the GPU itilization with each bot taking ~1.5-2.5% of my GPU utilization
1733663340034.png

and finally, this is a closer look at the GPU performance
1733663411260.png
Does anyone have some insight into what might be causing this issue, or some validation that your rig with similar specs doesn't have this issue? I am hearing that EQ is all RAM and CPU - is this Ryzen 7 3700x a problem?

Thank you!!
 
Warhound said:
Hi all,

When I am boxing 54, videos played on my 2nd monitor are choppy. I look at my GPU utilization in task manager and see that it is near maxed out at 98%. When i ask others that have a similar set up to mine, they say they dont have that problem and their GPU isn't maxed even without implementing all the below optimizations, so i think theres something wrong, or something i am missing. I have scoured the interwebs trying to find a solution or explanation to no avail. I am hoping one of yall can help!

Ryzen 7 3700x CPU 3.6 ghz, 8 cores (16 cpus)
RTX 2070 SUPER 8 gb VRAM
64 gb RAM
two 27'' monitors, 1920x1080p

I am running 6 toons in one directory with playable settings and the rest of the 54 in another directory with stripped down globalload.txt and eqclient files, including stick figures
I have implemented every optimization strategy in this thread https://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=2988.0

I also run the following EQAffinity script after loading toons in to distribute them among cores. Without that, toons are incredibly laggy.
#change 255 to fit your purpose. 255 spreads across all 8 cores. # to use = 2^N - 1 where N=num cores
powershell "$process=GET-PROCESS eqgame; foreach ($i in $process) {$i.ProcessorAffinity=65535}"

This is my utilization via task manager
View attachment 67035

This shows the GPU itilization with each bot taking ~1.5-2.5% of my GPU utilization
View attachment 67036

and finally, this is a closer look at the GPU performance
View attachment 67037
Does anyone have some insight into what might be causing this issue, or some validation that your rig with similar specs doesn't have this issue? I am hearing that EQ is all RAM and CPU - is this Ryzen 7 3700x a problem?

Thank you!!
Click to expand...
Use framelimiter
 
Turning the playable/main toons to maxFPS=60 and maxBGFPS=9, and the non-played toons to 9 for both, decreased my GPU utilization from 98 to 70 and videos are no longer lagging. Thank you!
 
Warhound said:
Turning the playable/main toons to maxFPS=60 and maxBGFPS=9, and the non-played toons to 9 for both, decreased my GPU utilization from 98 to 70 and videos are no longer lagging. Thank you!
Click to expand...

To elaborate a bit more on Sic's answer ...

You want to leave the in game frame limiter set to max ( or 60 fps ) and use MQ's frame limiter instead.

The EQ's frame limiter will simply pause the game between frames to hit the lower the FPS target. The pause also effects MQ so now your MQ code is also getting paused. This leads to things like auto follow breaking, MQ scripts or lua's running super slow, etc.

Ideally, you leave the EQ frame limiter set to max. Then you use MQ's frame limiter to bypass the rendering code but leaving the main game logic running at full speed. This lowers the GPU resources required, while letting your MQ/EQ react at normal speeds.

If needed, you can use the MQ frame limiter to slow down the game logic processing.
 
dewey2461 said:
To elaborate a bit more on Sic's answer ...

You want to leave the in game frame limiter set to max ( or 60 fps ) and use MQ's frame limiter instead.

The EQ's frame limiter will simply pause the game between frames to hit the lower the FPS target. The pause also effects MQ so now your MQ code is also getting paused. This leads to things like auto follow breaking, MQ scripts or lua's running super slow, etc.

Ideally, you leave the EQ frame limiter set to max. Then you use MQ's frame limiter to bypass the rendering code but leaving the main game logic running at full speed. This lowers the GPU resources required, while letting your MQ/EQ react at normal speeds.

If needed, you can use the MQ frame limiter to slow down the game logic processing.
Click to expand...
couldn't have said it better myself.
 
eqsubi15 said:
I've always been confused on the settings of the framelimiter. What are the ideal settings to maximize the number of toons you can run smoothly on a single PC?

View attachment 67068
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that is pretty great right there imo (and looks like my snip lol)

but basically you want to enable frame limiting in the background.
you *dont* want to render gamescreen or draw imgui/draw gameui
you could limit foreground if you wanted to, but meh

you really want minimum simulation rate at 30, this allows your background toons to "do work" with a simulation rate as if they were rendering at 30fps
 
I use to box 32 toons on an old computer before frame limiter, now with new computer that is twice as beefed as my last one and using frame limiter it still maxes out smooth play at about 32 toons.
 
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