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Question - Question regarding Classes to build around a Beastlord and Zerker box team (1 Viewer)

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I have recently come back to Everquest and I recently started a Beastlord and Zerker as they were two classes that I had not really played before.

I was considering building a box team around the two and I wondered what the best options would be assuming that I would be four or five boxing and thus needing to make a few compromises.

I was considering running SK/Bard/Cleric, but wondered if perhaps Warrior/Bard/Druid or SK/Bard/Druid would be better to get ports in the team or whether I would be sacrificing too much high end healing potential by going druid over cleric (Hope was that although Cleric Mercs aren't fantastic, that I could pop a cleric merc to help the Druid if the extra healing was needed).

I wish I could run a sixth box, but I'm not sure I can justify the extra cost at this time.

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I'm about to do a box team of:

WAR, CLR, BRD, BER, BST, RNG

You don't get the benefit of a dru/wiz for movement, but its easy enough to PL a wizard or druid to get part of your team in a spot, drop a campfire, and then port in everyone else.
 
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So I think I'm about to bite the bullet and add a sixth box to the team, but probably keep them FTP.

Would make the most sense to add a Wizard for the extra DPS, a Mage for convenience of COTH and another backup tank or should I add a Druid for the extra healing (or am I missing another viable option). I had thought about doing a Ranger like Sum1 above is doing, but I was thinking that with a SK it wouldn't make as much sense as if I was using a Warrior instead.

Also, can I get away with the Cleric being Silver, or should the Cleric be gold as well?

Thanks!
 
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I'd do SK, Bard, Cleric, Beast, Zerker, Wiz (ftp). Wizzies do just fine FTP (I have one and I love it). You also get ports/TLs with that setup, which I frankly don't know how I lived without it before. My wizzy is a relatively new addition to my toon collection.
 
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Still a fan of holy trinity + porter + dps especially if you have just 1 group

1 Tank
2 CC
3 Heal
4 DPS (prefer porter)
5 DPS
6 DPS

If the common macro's out there did a better job at dealing with CC via offtanking rather than mez doubling up on tanks (even Pet tanks) and healers would make more sense but they just dont so CC+DPS is the best strat

I do like a druid as an option for #4, sure you lose 20%+ (made up #) of DPS vs a Wiz but you do gain more survivability, killing in 20s vs 15s is worth is for survivability IMO.
 
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Eltai86 said:
I'm personally about to add a 2nd Zerk to the group comprised of SK/Brd/Clr/Bst/Ber.....shit just melts....
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I think you'll be good until DBG realizes zerker dicho is out of whack and nerfs it (similar to the nerf to bard dicho overpower). That's why I decided to PL another wizzy for my caster and move the ranger to the melee group. Plus rangers, as hybrids, get a lot of benefit from both the overhaste portion of bard aura AND the nuke mods afforded to it.
 
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BrianGragg said:
Stupid question but why does everyone go SK over Pally?
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Aggro spells mostly IMO, also they have like a few % higher DPS as all their taps do dmg
Also the melee tap's at high level keep the SK up pretty well without needing heals

Most people also have a cleric so negates some of the need for HP buffs.

If I do not have a cleric in group I like a paladin. If I do I like a SHD
 
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Pally instead of having taps for heals have heal procs that serve the same purpose. Between their aggro cast able spells and then healing procs I have never seen a difference between either. Used to run both for awhile.


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BrianGragg said:
Pally instead of having taps for heals have heal procs that serve the same purpose. Between their aggro cast able spells and then healing procs I have never seen a difference between either. Used to run both for awhile.
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I think SHD do more spell DPS than a PAL even thou both have similar melee-proc-augments
Spell itself has a proc chance, as do the AA's to increase DD damage, the quad taps and such


I like SHD because of AE aggro, snare, and FD.
I like PAL because of off-heals, rez, buffs.
The DPS delta and tanking delta is probably measurable better 1 way or the other but is negligible

I have not played a PAL past PoP really so not sure how well they compare now for AE aggro vs SHD or WAR
 
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Yeah the DPS aspect I can't say much about but SK / PAL are really on par when it comes to aggro and AE aggro. Unless war got something new in EOK pal / SK still out AE aggro war.


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WAR
DRU
BER
BER
BARD
BST

Shammy and beastlord are almost redundant. I like the DPS of your group idea but would go for a druid. Better heals, damage shield and ports
 
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If your shaman can heal everything alright, I'd take a shaman over a druid for a melee group and a druid in a caster group. Ports doesn't matter, like stated above just levelling a port wiz and using fellowship is easy enough.

I would probably go

WAR (hands down the best tank in the game, and tanking is his job)
BST
BER
BST (hell yeah, 2 beastlords can do ANYTHING together and they do some quite awesome DPS with Emerica's ini + shitloads of proc tank healing from pets etc plus you could actually use one for backup healing if needed)
BRD (I would normally always use a chanter over a bard myself, but in a pure melee group I can see the benefit of a bard)
CLR/SHM (only do shaman if you can main heal enough with it).
 
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