Question - Berserker or Rogue (1 Viewer)

Hanlons Razor · Aug 29, 2016

So I'm getting a bit bored of Phinigel and because of this I'm ready to get my live server crew up and running again. However, I've decided to replace my Monk (previous main) with a new Rogue or Zerker since I've never played one of the "pure" melee DPS classes and I'm beyond bored of Monk after all these years playing it.

The rest of my group is: SK/Shm/Brd/Clr/Wiz

I'm not so worried about their relative AFK botting performance because I find tuning that to be very enjoyable - I even had my monk doing very respectable DPS!

My biggest concerns are with their overall performance when played to peak and any special case utility. Thanks for any input you guys may have!

Razkle · Aug 29, 2016

ya got a bard, so ZERKER FTW!

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pure damage output with a 105 bard is I N S A N E with a zerker!

Hanlons Razor · Aug 29, 2016

Always thought zerker looked fun, but never played one. I'll give it a shot!

drcrimzon · Aug 29, 2016

They are a lot of fun, but it is extremely annoying to have to remember to bux axe components. If only they had an AA like Endless Quiver that gave you unlimited axe components. (Even with the 70% reagent reduction AA, I can still burn 25kpp per day in axes).

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Razkle said:
ya got a bard, so ZERKER FTW!

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pure damage output with a 105 bard is I N S A N E with a zerker!

Hey Raz, what songs makes the Zerker that much higher? I run one with my group sometimes, and he matches or beats the wizards most of the time (as long as it's not a long fight and he runs out of end). Since I have more wizards, I never looked at the other songs that might benefit him more.

Hanlons Razor · Aug 30, 2016

drcrimzon said:
They are a lot of fun, but it is extremely annoying to have to remember to bux axe components. If only they had an AA like Endless Quiver that gave you unlimited axe components. (Even with the 70% reagent reduction AA, I can still burn 25kpp per day in axes).

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Hey Raz, what songs makes the Zerker that much higher? I run one with my group sometimes, and he matches or beats the wizards most of the time (as long as it's not a long fight and he runs out of end). Since I have more wizards, I never looked at the other songs that might benefit him more.

I'm not sure if 105 songs have changed, but for 100 songs - War March of Illdaera, Aria of Va'Ker, Kaficus' Spiteful Lyric, Arcane Hymn - I think these are the main ones that add damage for melee. Of course you also have the constant 25% overhaste from aura, quick time, fierce eye, epic click, etc.

Afaik zerkers also reach 90%+ crit chance during burns, so having a shaman 2.0 is probably a very big DPS increase as well.

Razkle · Aug 30, 2016

^^ what he just said

Maskoi · Aug 30, 2016

You need a bard in the group to support sustainable zerker dps. It comes down to Rallying Call AA to regen the zerkers endurance.

The bard aura
Aura of Maetanrus
Over haste 25% for 225% haste
Increase Triple Attack Chance 25%
Increase Flurry Chance 20%

3 bard songs
War March of Jocelyn
1: Increase Attack Speed by 60%
2: Increase STR by 250
3: Increase ATK by 148
4: Increase Damage Shield by 111
6: Increase All Skills Minimum Damage Modifier by 39%
12: Increase All Skills Damage Modifier by 4%

Arcane Melody
10: Add Proc: Decrease Hitpoints by 508

Fjilnauk's Song of Suffering
1: Hit Limited Proc: Decrease Hitpoints by 7464

I have fixed bard casting and added features to kiss in Kss 9.1.2 (not released yet) specifically to support this and bard Dichotomic pslam for Mana regen.

My zeker is lasting 6 to 7 times longer before she needs to med due the bard on constant pulls. zerker used to med about every 15 mobs now its like every 90.

Rich (BB code):

DPS-Berserker-105=Total Damage: 1,069,614 - Fight Time: 10s - DPS: 106,961
[a hunting skirth-8631 - 8/30/2016-04:11:08]
DPS-Berserker-105=Total Damage: 788,573 - Fight Time: 8s - DPS: 98,571
[an aggressive gehein-8730 - 8/30/2016-04:11:37]
DPS-Berserker-105=Total Damage: 308,485 - Fight Time: 7s - DPS: 44,069
[a glaring orafik-8667 - 8/30/2016-04:12:06]
DPS-Berserker-105=Total Damage: 705,664 - Fight Time: 8s - DPS: 88,208
[an aggressive gehein-8762 - 8/30/2016-04:12:30]
DPS-Berserker-105=Total Damage: 1,236,597 - Fight Time: 7s - DPS: 176,656
[an aggressive gehein-8756 - 8/30/2016-04:13:04]
DPS-Berserker-105=Total Damage: 438,163 - Fight Time: 1s - DPS: 438,163
[a hunting skirth-8822 - 8/30/2016-04:13:30]
DPS-Berserker-105=Total Damage: 453,707 - Fight Time: 9s - DPS: 50,411
[a hunting skirth-8835 - 8/30/2016-04:13:56]
DPS-Berserker-105=Total Damage: 1,161,843 - Fight Time: 5s - DPS: 232,368
[a hunting skirth-8854 - 8/30/2016-04:14:27]
DPS-Berserker-105=Total Damage: 306,427 - Fight Time: 12s - DPS: 25,535
[a hunting skirth-8856 - 8/30/2016-04:15:08]
DPS-Berserker-105=Total Damage: 564,184 - Fight Time: 8s - DPS: 70,523
[a ferocious tirun-8899 - 8/30/2016-04:15:38]
DPS-Berserker-105=Total Damage: 509,842 - Fight Time: 9s - DPS: 56,649
[an aggressive gehein-8925 - 8/30/2016-04:16:08]
DPS-Berserker-105=Total Damage: 679,321 - Fight Time: 6s - DPS: 113,220

Complete credit for the new changes goes to William12. His strats.

q8reflex · Aug 30, 2016

Thanks Maskoi, would you please share your zerker ini? my new ftp zerker about to hit 100 soonish, need to field test him.

Maskoi · Aug 30, 2016

My zerker is 105 TDS Group Geared Max AAs with a Chase Weapon
This set up doesn't use mq2melee and you will go through a lot of axes so make you have plenty of axe parts to summon them.
Dichotomic Rage is the BIG end killer so yours shouldn't be so bad on end at 100.

Rich (BB code):

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Hanlons Razor · Aug 30, 2016

That's awesome Maskoi! I'm loving KA 9.1 - before I got my crew going again I last used 6.8 so there have been a lot of improvements/upgrades since then.

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Aw man, now you're tempting me to buy TBM. That's a TBM AA. lol

drcrimzon · Aug 30, 2016

Hanlons Razor said:
Aw man, now you're tempting me to buy TBM. That's a TBM AA. lol

Some of the Dicho spells are meh, but the bard and Zerker one are amazing. I've seen 1.6m crits on a crappy geared COTF t2/TDS t1 zerker.

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Maskoi said:
You need a bard in the group to support sustainable zerker dps. It comes down to Rallying Call AA to regen the zerkers endurance.

So do you weave rallying call in between Breather? I havent been able to macro it to that point. 90% of the time rallying call hits with breather active, so it's capped at 25% end. Playing manually, it's pretty easy to throw RC on in between, but it's also a bit hard determining when breather drops. Or do you abandon breather altogether, and just rallying call every 5 min?

Maskoi · Aug 30, 2016

Rallying call is just cast on the lowest endurance group member at the time using the NEW Feature |Endgroup

Rich (BB code):

Buffs3=Rallying Call|endgroup|25

The main thing is rallying call is canceled if the toon attacks. So kiss will not attack while under its influence.

The zerker cast breather when ever you tell them too with the normal |end tag in buffs

Rich (BB code):

Buffs3=Breather|end|20
Buffs4=Communion of Blood|end|50|50

Chances of the bard using rallying call at the exact moment the zerker is using breather is rare.

saar · Aug 31, 2016

get the bp for your zerker from CoTF, it has end regen at a decent rate just lowers your dps by 15% but can regen a bit of endurance

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3 min reuse i think

Maskoi · Aug 31, 2016

TY I will Check it out.

ninalia · Aug 31, 2016

it s 10 mins on the bp click :
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=114619

Hanlons Razor · Sep 3, 2016

Well zerker is 100 + 7.5k AAs now. Full TDS T1 gear and weapon, 16 dmg 2h aug. I modified Maskoi's KA INI to work at 100 (just swapped to 96-100 discs instead of 101-105 discs).

So far, he's doing about the same DPS as a caster merc and generally competing with my bard for DPS. Highest I've seen him burn on a named is 50k.

My SK right now is averaging 40-50k DPS on trash and 100k+ DPS burning on named, using COTF T2 + TDS T1 2her (was max AAs at 100). His DPS is considerably lower with 1h/shield. Hopefully the zerker catches up with some AAs!

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Ok I've got him doing a lot better now. Just in case someone else wants to use:

Based on a 105 one in the INI thread and with some of my own additions. Uses RK1 of all discs and works pretty well with only autogrant AAs.

Rich (BB code):

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Rich (BB code):

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Jeeeez the difference between 100 and 101 is big. Dicho for Zerker is really strong to say the least.

Maskoi · Sep 3, 2016

Mine uses no holy shits. i transferred everything to Kiss. Mq2melee is off completely but Kiss yet can't get as complex in combos.

Thanks for sharing

Hanlons Razor · Sep 5, 2016

Maskoi said:
Mine uses no holy shits. i transferred everything to Kiss. Mq2melee is off completely but Kiss yet can't get as complex in combos.

Thanks for sharing

Yeah it works pretty well for kiss-only, nice and quick to setup. The conditions in shits really help with stacking buffs that synergize, so I have always tended to use them to trigger and maintain burns.

My zerker's average DPS has almost doubled since he got Dicho activated. Seems like they kinda balanced the class around it.

- - - Updated - - -

Just to follow up on this, the zerker is now 105 with about 8k AAs and is already topping DPS for my team (even over the wizard) at the current camp.

This is a parse of 766 mobs over a 6 hour period, all characters below are in TDS T1 gear/weapons:

Combined: A ferocious tirun in 8901s, 1445443k @162391sdps
Berserker + pets 480984k@54037sdps [33.28%]
Shadow Knight + pets 437989k@49207sdps [30.30%]
Wizard + pets 369857k@41552sdps [25.59%]
Bard + pets 104241k@11711sdps [7.21%]
Shaman + pets 37420k@4204sdps [2.59%]

Thanks for the advice guys, really enjoying this class! I pulled my monk out of mothballs for an hour or so last night to make a comparison and he does about half the average DPS.

Here are my updated 105 inis... but just a fair warning, I can't seem to get Dicho to fire using MQ2melee and Kiss won't fire it while a disc is running, so there is some wasted damage here until I figure out a solution.

Holyshit23 is the Dicho one that doesn't fire, and 24-28 are there just to fire abilities while a disc is running.

Rich (BB code):

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Rich (BB code):

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holyshit17=/if (${Me.CombatState.Equal[COMBAT]} && ${Me.AltAbilityReady[Communion of Blood]} && ${Me.PctEndurance} <7 && ${Me.PctHPs}>70) /casting "Communion of Blood" alt
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holyshit26=/if (${Me.CombatState.Equal[COMBAT]} && ${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Demolishing Axe Throw]}${Target.PctHPs}<99) /disc Demolishing Axe Throw
holyshit27=/if (${Me.CombatState.Equal[COMBAT]} && ${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Axe of Numicia]}${Target.PctHPs}<99) /disc Axe of Numicia
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holyshit30=/if (${Me.CombatState.Equal[COMBAT]} && (${SpawnCount[npc radius 30 zradius 10]}<1 || ${Target.Named}) && ${Me.AltAbilityReady[Reckless Abandon]} && ${Target.PctHPs}<99) /alt act 3710
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Maskoi · Sep 5, 2016

You have so many holy shits I can't even follow them.

Did you just load and try my ini that doesn't use mq2melee. If you are having problems i am sure it is trying to use 30 holyshits.

Hanlons Razor · Sep 5, 2016

Maskoi said:
You have so many holy shits I can't even follow them.

Did you just load and try my ini that doesn't use mq2melee. If you are having problems i am sure it is trying to use 30 holyshits.

Yeah I did start with your INI and no shits, I'll try trimming it down and firing more stuff through KISS and see if that helps.

- - - Updated - - -

Pared melee down to this, just to deal with the 90% health stuff, and using your INI without any changes. Will report back on how it goes.

Rich (BB code):

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holyshit1=/if (${Me.CombatState.Equal[COMBAT]} && ${Window[CombatAbilityWnd].Child[CAW_CombatEffectLabel].Text.Equal[Savage Spirit]} && ${Me.AltAbilityReady[Untamed Rage]}) /casting "Untamed Rage" alt
holyshit2=/if (${Me.CombatState.Equal[COMBAT]} && ${Window[CombatAbilityWnd].Child[CAW_CombatEffectLabel].Text.Equal[Savage Spirit]} && ${Me.AltAbilityReady[Reckless Abandon]}) /casting "Reckless Abandon" alt
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holyshit6=/if (${Me.CombatState.Equal[COMBAT]} && !${Me.Song[Open Wound Effect].ID} && ${Me.PctHPs}>=70) /disc Open Wound

Hanlons Razor · Sep 15, 2016

Final followup to this thread - Zerker is now 105, max AAs, using TDS chase 2her. He's sustaining about 20% more DPS than my Wizard and under a full burn can blast most of a current expansion named HP in a single attack (Dicho). This has been really useful with some of the nastier named mobs.

At some point once I'm satisfied with my shits and kiss ini, I'll post it up in the KA section for others to use. Thanks again for the advice guys!

Casca · Sep 15, 2016

I gotta stop reading about berserker DPS. I am in serious danger of re-starting account number 15. I think my laptop can even handle 15 accounts fine if I dial down the graphics a little, but I don't like FTP, so that'll be more $$ I spend regularly on this game.

Tone · Sep 15, 2016

Casca said:
I gotta stop reading about berserker DPS. I am in serious danger of re-starting account number 15. I think my laptop can even handle 15 accounts fine if I dial down the graphics a little, but I don't like FTP, so that'll be more $$ I spend regularly on this game.

You'll end up like me... I have 54 active accounts and a 10th group queued up for CPU time.
Have to finish gear sets before I take on another group lmao.

Hanlons Razor · Sep 15, 2016

Lol I'm trying so hard to keep it to 6 accounts... but here I am with a 7th account logged in leveling up a Beastlord, and I'm very tempted to finish up a Mage and Druid that are sitting at level 86 or so. It will never end I'm afraid...

Thatguy27 · Sep 15, 2016

My laptop is old and on its last leg.. I'm stuck to just 7 toons at one time. I still have 9 accounts... wtf.

Razkle · Sep 15, 2016

I remember the days when I thought 6 accounts was enough..... mwahahahahahaaa

Hanlons Razor · Sep 16, 2016

I'm loving SK DPS with a 2her now. I can't get my wizzy or zerker to beat it over a long parse even with assist at 100% (raz's afnuke2 on wiz). He also burns around 150k DPS. Still using a TBM group 2her until I can get a Percutio - DPS should go up again by a fair amount at that point.

This is about ~ 2 hours of grinding.

ShadowKnight + pets 242024k@66308sdps (66308dps in 3650s) [34.9%]
Berserker 201950k@55329sdps (55344dps in 3649s) [29.12%]
Wizard + pets 181711k@49784sdps (49839dps in 3646s) [26.2%]
Bard + pets 65576k@17966sdps (17966dps in 3650s) [9.46%]

- - - Updated - - -

So with these bard changes (Dicho now costs ~8k endurance per cast, returns 6% of the mana that it used to) I'm fairly certain that my Wizard will be requiring med time again. I'm tempted to replace the Wizard with a Beastlord. BST paragon stuff, Dicho, and ATK buffs should bring a lot to my group.

The only problem doing this is no ports! Guess I could invest in gate pots and keep the Wiz on a separate account so I can still use it for transport.

Sum1 · Sep 16, 2016

With the dicho nerfs I have to think zerkers will have their nerf in the next few weeks, too. The bard nerf was so severe (especially for a class that has no endurance regen abilities) that I'm worried this is signaling more severe changes.

Hanlons Razor · Sep 16, 2016

Sum1 said:
With the dicho nerfs I have to think zerkers will have their nerf in the next few weeks, too. The bard nerf was so severe (especially for a class that has no endurance regen abilities) that I'm worried this is signaling more severe changes.

It does bother me that 30%+ of my zerker's DPS is from the Dicho hits alone. When grinding he just 1-shots a mob every minute essentially. I could see them nerfing it, but they'll have to increase sustained DPS or I'll be swapping him out for a Monk again.

Sum1 · Sep 16, 2016

Hanlons Razor said:
It does bother me that 30%+ of my zerker's DPS is from the Dicho hits alone. When grinding he just 1-shots a mob every minute essentially. I could see them nerfing it, but they'll have to increase sustained DPS or I'll be swapping him out for a Monk again.

Well, considering they aren't adjusting anything with bards to compensate for the 94% nerf (went from great to 94% worthless), I wouldn't hold my breath for them to adjust other sustained dps abilities, especially with a new expansion coming out in a couple of months.

Hanlons Razor · Sep 16, 2016

Sum1 said:
Well, considering they aren't adjusting anything with bards to compensate for the 94% nerf (went from great to 94% worthless), I wouldn't hold my breath for them to adjust other sustained dps abilities, especially with a new expansion coming out in a couple of months.

Well to be fair, the bard Dicho nerf has no impact on my Zerker. It really only impacts my SK and Wizard who can both burn through a lot of mana.

It's possible they'll make changes to other Dicho abilities. We know that if they do, they'll nerf it into absolute uselessness like they did to the Bard version. It's really too bad.

Tone · Sep 16, 2016

94% nerf feelsbadman

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Casca · Sep 16, 2016

Great, just started back up account #15, got all-access and premium TBM expansion and made my berserker. Think he's @lvl86.7 by now grouped up with my afk farm team till I can figure out wtf is wrong with the macros I use when it comes to berserker, then I'll get him on track for Tear of Alarais.

Even with the nerf, I'd still assume berserker will out DPS all other melee's and should still out DPS wizards by a little considering berserkers don't bring much of anything but DPS to a group or raid. Whatever other class that is now top DPS or is close to berserker DPS but also brings many other things to a group and/or raid will be getting their turn with the nerf bat too no doubt. So I'll keep the zerker.

Hanlons Razor · Sep 16, 2016

Casca said:
Great, just started back up account #15, got all-access and premium TBM expansion and made my berserker. Think he's @lvl86.7 by now grouped up with my afk farm team till I can figure out wtf is wrong with the macros I use when it comes to berserker, then I'll get him on track for Tear of Alarais.

Even with the nerf, I'd still assume berserker will out DPS all other melee's and should still out DPS wizards by a little considering berserkers don't bring much of anything but DPS to a group or raid. Whatever other class that is now top DPS or is close to berserker DPS but also brings many other things to a group and/or raid will be getting their turn with the nerf bat too no doubt. So I'll keep the zerker.

We really have no evidence that there will be a nerf to Berkserker's Dicho, that's just some speculation right now. However if they were to nerf it into obscurity, wizard will take the lead - based on my own parsing anyway.

I do love seeing my SK crippling blow normal melee autoattacks for 120k while under visage of death and Zerker's Dicho. Really hoping they don't nerf it lol.

Tone · Sep 16, 2016

Get a Zealator's Ambition with that combo + crimson blade... it's nuts

Hanlons Razor · Sep 16, 2016

Tone said:
Get a Zealator's Ambition with that combo + crimson blade... it's nuts

Wow yeah... hoping I can join a raid guild on the SK, but they're all looking for zerkers lol.

Casca · Sep 17, 2016

Hanlons Razor said:
However if they were to nerf it into obscurity, wizard will take the lead - based on my own parsing anyway.
.

I'm saying once they're done balancing all the classes....some more. Not that they will ever be done with that. If they do nerf berserker DPS, no doubt wizard will have their day on the chopping block (again) too and once the dust settles, berserkers will still be out DPSing all the other classes.

Hanlons Razor · Sep 18, 2016

This is a combination parse of the 4 "lesser spirit" TBM HAs last night.

Combined: A corrupt pusling in 5778s, 1033048k @178790sdps
ShadowKnight + pets 336921k@58311sdps (58311dps in 5778s) [32.62%]
Berserker 294847k@51029sdps (51065dps in 5774s) [28.54%]
Wizard + pets 293582k@50810sdps (50872dps in 5771s) [28.42%]
Bard + pets 90083k@15591sdps (15604dps in 5773s) [8.72%]

I kept training myself when pulling and triggering burns to get it done faster, so I didn't get an all-out zerker burn on a named, but this was one without Dicho even in the mix because he used it on an add.

Terrance the Admired in 26s, 12059k @463797sdps
ShadowKnight + pets 5107k@196408sdps (196408dps in 26s) [42.35%]
Wizard 3269k@125748sdps (142149dps in 23s) [27.11%]
Berserker 3147k@121025sdps (121025dps in 26s) [26.09%]
Cleric 237k@9131sdps (13965dps in 17s) [1.97%]
Bard + pets 225k@8644sdps (8644dps in 26s) [1.86%]

Yeah I know, my SK rocks.

Sum1 · Sep 19, 2016

lol....... when your CLERIC out DPS's your melee'ing bard........ please tell me the bard was a buff bot and not doing anything!

Hanlons Razor · Sep 19, 2016

Sum1 said:
lol....... when your CLERIC out DPS's your melee'ing bard........ please tell me the bard was a buff bot and not doing anything!

Haha in that fight I'm pretty sure the bard was mezzing/remezzing adds. The bard will do 20-25k DPS all day when I turn off his mezzing and just face tank my pulls, even 50k+ on some burns!

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